Can anyone defend the IAM crossing the mechanic's picket line?

[delldude]

I crossed a picket line once.....

 

[roadtrip]

I crossed a picket line once.....

Ah Dell,

http://www.the-earchives.com/scripts/download.asp?id=4715

 

[EricLv2Fish]

Unions should create a sense of family and team between it's members. Personally I would not cross a picket line. How many of it's own union members cross is a direct reflection on how well the Union has done in creating the sense of family and team. Then there is the X-factor...how many replacement workers will come on to fill the vacancies left by the strikers. NWA has proven with a little planning even a skilled class can be replaced in today's airline environment. How many of those replacement workers where prior union? I suspect most were which leads back to the Union providing a sense of family and team. Building unity within the ranks requires alot more than just words and anti-company rhetoric. Unions should stick together and not cross other Union pickets. If they do how in the world can they expect workers not to perform struck work! And the Union excuse "we were contractually obligated to perform the work"??!! IT SHOULD BE IN THE CONTRACT NOT TO PERFORM STRUCK WORK OF ANY KIND! Does it take a genius to figure out a Union should have that language in a contract??

 

[700UW]

NWA planned for a year and half to replace AMFA when they went on strike, where are you getting your info?

Maybe you need to read the ESE contract at NWA, where they were all ready performing pushbacks and ancillary duties.

But hey don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[gonzo]

If it's over your head, GONZZZZZO, forget it always will be....BUT I’ll try to explain:
Pitguy is stirring the pot, he was management, he hates the IAM, he loves himself and feels anyone who doesn't think as he does is the fool, he pretends to be a Christian yet starts this kind of crappie thread and people like YOU GONZO fill his need.

ROFL.......Not liking the IAM is something that is not restricted to someone in management. If you were paying attention would have noticed that there are many IAM members who "hate" the IAM. Pay more attention next time smor....LOL

Were do these people come from.

 

[delldude]

ROFL.......Not liking the IAM is something that is not restricted to someone in management. If you were paying attention would have noticed that there are many IAM members who "hate" the IAM. Pay more attention next time smor....LOL

Were do these people come from.

hear ya loud and clear!

 

[smorzando]

ROFL.......Not liking the IAM is something that is not restricted to someone in management. If you were paying attention would have noticed that there are many IAM members who "hate" the IAM. Pay more attention next time smor....LOL

Were do these people come from.

Anyone who HATES a entity they are paying dues to are morons, are you a moron, or are you just pretending?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Anyone who HATES a entity they are paying dues to are morons, are you a moron, or are you just pretending?

The word hate was in quotation marks. Maybe it's hating what is going on and not the entity itself. :unsure: :unsure:

And my statement is true for me and me alone. Never implied otherwise.

 

[smorzando]

And my statement is true for me and me alone. Never implied otherwise.

Of course it is! It's also the answer to the labors woes today. That very attitude is killing labor, funny thing is you believe it’s an ok attitude, but it's far from it and in fact the exact opposite. Everyone going in different directions while corporate America exploit’s the labor bots right from under your noses as you watch all your bother and sisters jobs disappear only to resurface in some foreign land. But that's ok, YOU’RE still collecting a paycheck...FOR NOW Maybe go back and study this term:

un·ion (yÃnÆyÃn), n.
1. the act of uniting two or more things.
2. the state of being united.
3. something formed by uniting two or more things; combination.
4. a number of persons, states, etc., joined or associated together for some common purpose: student union; credit union.
5. a group of states or nations united into one political body, as that of the American colonies at the time of the Revolution, that of England and Scotland in 1707, or that of Great Britain and Ireland in 1801.
6. the Union. the United States: The Union defeated the Confederacy in 1865.
7. a device emblematic of union, used in a flag or ensign, sometimes occupying the upper corner next to the staff or occupying the entire field.
8. the act of uniting or an instance of being united in marriage or sexual intercourse: an ideal union; an illicit union.
9. an organization of workers; a labor union.
10. Math.
a. Also called join, logical sum, sum. the set consisting of elements each of which is in at least one of two or more given sets. Symbol: È
b. the least upper bound of two elements in a lattice.
11. the process or result of merging or integration of disjoined, severed, or fractured elements, as the healing of a wound or broken bone, the growing together of the parts in a plant graft, the fusion of pieces in a welding process, or the like.
12. the junction or location at which the merging process has taken place.
13. any of various contrivances for connecting parts of machinery or the like.
14. Textiles.
a. a fabric of two kinds of yarn.
b. a yarn of two or more fibers.
[1400–50; late ME < MF < LL %ni$n- (s. of %ni$), equiv. to L %n(us) one + -i$n- -ION]
—Syn. 1. UNION, UNITY agree in referring to a oneness, either created by putting together, or by being undivided. A UNION is a state of being united, a combination, as the result of joining two or more things into one: to promote the union between two families; the Union of England and Scotland. UNITY is the state or inherent quality of being one, single, individual, and indivisible (often as a consequence of union): to find unity in diversity; to give unity to a work of art. 5. See alliance. 8. wedlock; liaison.
—Ant. 1, 2. separation, division.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

You just never know what you will do when the situation, any situation for that matter, arises. :unsure:

 

[gonzo]

Anyone who HATES a entity they are paying dues to are morons, are you a moron, or are you just pretending?

So are you saying they should stop paying dues smor? Or do you think that they should just try to change their situation. You call your union brothers and sisters morons? Is that what you think of the members. For someone who is preaching unionism and is complaining that members or future members are the problem with the unions needs to pull their head out of the sand. The "old" union administrators are the problem, because they are not willing to see that there needs to be changes made.

Unity is a result of a common belief and a choice to band together for that cause. If that common belief is lost then the unity is lost. Unity doesnt come from a dictionary definition, it comes from within.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

So are you saying they should stop paying dues smor? Or due you think that they should just try to change their situation. You call your union brothers and sisters morons? Is that what you think of the members. For someone who is preaching unionism and is complaining that members or future members are the problem with the unions needs to pull their head out of the sand. The "old" union administrators are the problem, because they are not willing to see that there needs to be changes made.

Unity is a result of a common belief and a choice to band together for that cause. If that common belief is lost then the unity is lost. Unity doesnt come from a dictionary definition, it comes from within.

Gonzo, did you DUE that on purpose??

And unity goes way beyond the Union Label.

 

[wrencher9]

700UW please don't forget the 40% of the mechanics on NWA property voted for the IAM against AMFA . So to spite AMFA the IAM turned their backs on the 40% at NWA. Don't forget at U how the IAM almost wiped out the Utility classification at U but I guess they didn't for there are 50 left at U with several thousand waiting to be recalled. Do you think this is in play so the IAM can't be sued for non-representation. 700UW JUST THE FACTS AND NOT YOUR TAINTED OPINION.

 

[gonzo]

Gonzo, did you DUE that on purpose??

And unity goes way beyond the Union Label.

I should have spelled it dew.

700UW please don't forget the 40% of the mechanics on NWA property voted for the IAM against AMFA . So to spite AMFA the IAM turned their backs on the 40% at NWA. Don't forget at U how the IAM almost wiped out the Utility classification at U but I guess they didn't for there are 50 left at U with several thousand waiting to be recalled. Do you think this is in play so the IAM can't be sued for non-representation. 700UW JUST THE FACTS AND NOT YOUR TAINTED OPINION.

Hmmm....very good points wrencher9.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

Everyone going in different directions while corporate America exploit’s the labor bots right from under your noses as you watch all your bother and sisters jobs disappear only to resurface in some foreign land. But that's ok, YOU’RE still collecting a paycheck...FOR NOW Maybe go back and study this term:

It starts at the top. Don't blame the union worker. Unions against Unions. What is that? How can you blame the members when Union leadership...well is showing no leadership!