Airbus319 in mobile

Overspeed said:
Bob,
So your response is basically I refuse to enforce the contract and you can't make me. Don't like it? File a DFR. And you how loose the language is for a DFR? Even incompetence is protected activity under the DFR provisions. Only discriminatory or intentionally harmful activity is a DFR. Since you truly believe, wrongly, that the language allows this work to be outsourced then it isn't a DFR.

 
Wow, where did you get that? My response to you, an anonymous poster on the Internet is that I don't see a violation and the way you are if I did think there was a violation and I filed you would accuse me of spending our money on arbitration where the award would go to people who are not even members of our Local. You would then base your argument on the fact that I even posted that I knew as much anyway but then, again off the word of an anonymous poster on the Internet pursued it anyway. 
 
And saying it's OH work shows your true colors. You never carried about OH jobs because you see them as a drag on your line pay.
 
 
Carried?   Ok assuming you mean cared. I never had anything against OH, in fact I've repeatedly defended the value of in-house OH, you are the one who has repeatedly said that we on the line have to agree and should willingly work for less to keep that work in house. Its those who vote YES on every concessional deal that they come across, line mechanics such as yourself , OH mechanics or Title II that I have no use for. The fact is there were enough NO votes in OH to shoot this down if not for Line guys such as yourself. 
 
WeAAsles said:
You and I did talk on the phone once a few years back. And if you're not sure you can ask AG or AC and they'll back it up that I am who I say.

I did post my name before on here plus my station, gate and hours.
OK, I dont remember the call, but I'll take your word for it. 
 
Bob Owens said:
OK, I dont remember the call, but I'll take your word for it.
It was at least 5 years ago. Probably a little longer. I reached out to you and we talked for about an hour. I left the forums shortly after that for about 4 years as I transferred here to MIA. It was a good conversation though.

Anyway back to topic. This is an example of a topic I steer clear of since it's directly about Maintenance issues that should be discussed by Maintenance members who understand the issue.

Either way for all concerned good luck.
 
is the AB still in Mobile   and if so  what was or is being done     and if its done  is it back in service
 
is the AB still in Mobile   and if so  what was or is being done     and if its done  is it back in service
The first seven A319s are undergoing light C checks in BFM. They are the 4 days at a time. I believe 006 is the currently.
 
thanks!   are the C checks done every couple of yrs?  and what does it involve
As I understand it, these checks are being done in a phased program. That's is, the C check is done in phases over a period of time so as to limit its OTS time.
 
Bob,
So your response is basically I refuse to enforce the contract and you can't make me. Don't like it? File a DFR. And you how loose the language is for a DFR? Even incompetence is protected activity under the DFR provisions. Only discriminatory or intentionally harmful activity is a DFR. Since you truly believe, wrongly, that the language allows this work to be outsourced then it isn't a DFR.

And saying it's OH work shows your true colors. You never carried about OH jobs because you see them as a drag on your line pay. Also the OH claim and loophole you bring up is BS. I spoke with Mosblech, he said the AA busses are going to the US phased MX program so the work is going to be line. So you are not defending AA work that is in our scope line or base.

Again this is a 29d presidential grievance, one of your fellow officers isn't doing his job, compel him with a motion. Me file a motion? Time limits will have killed the grievance by then. Don't you know the contract? You sure know how to make motions and have special board meetings if it affects you directly.

Rojas and Knapp, time for a new direction at 591. Hatfield, Glen in MIA, or Kilbane would be great candidates as Tresurers. Even though Kilbane is an AMFA guy he has great character and ethics. When the 2094 drive was going forward he came forward and resigned his position. Unlike you and many of your 591 officers who advocate for other unions at AA. You allow the use of TWU funds to sue the Int'l. What? That's like your own family member writing checks on your account to sue you because the want the right to have a new family that will give them more stuff. How the Int'l allows that blows me away. Yes we all have the right to speak up and should but not allow the destruction of jobs, not even try to enforce language you don't like, or use dues money for other than what benefits the membership.
You like attacking Bob don't you. This is 514 work. They should be the ones fighting this fight not 591. Are you attacking that local in the same way or is it that you just want to attack Bob? I think the latter. As far as suing the int goes its the locals money and they have local autonomy correct. Or should I say they have autonomy when the int allows them to have autonomy. The nmb revealed this in the document that allowed the membership to get screwed with this abortion called an association. Before you deny this here is a sentence from the decision. Each of the association agreements indicates that BOTH the twu and the iam had the AUTHORITY under their APPLICABLE DOCUMENTS (example constitution and bylaws) to enter into the joint labor agreement. This means that when you signed your dues check off card when you were hired you gave complete control to the twu int. You do not even have the right to vote on a contract unless they choose to allow you to vote.
 
Attack?? Hardly, pointing out issues.

514 work? No. TWU work. Since the company is breaking the baby bus to phased C then it will become work done in the line. Line versus base?

Local's money. Read the constitution if any union. The parent organization has a fiduciary responsibility for all monies and assets. The parent has. The right to put locals in receivership to prevent funds from being mismanaged or in a way that goes against its bylaws. Seeing the parent organization with local funds I believe is a violation but Lombardo must be focused on other things.

I see that you know a lot about things that don't have anything to do with how rules and regulations work.
 
Robbed,
ESM states C is every 24 months. Phased would still have to me that interval but would be smaller packs over a period of months.
 
Attack?? Hardly, pointing out issues.

514 work? No. TWU work. Since the company is breaking the baby bus to phased C then it will become work done in the line. Line versus base?

Local's money. Read the constitution if any union. The parent organization has a fiduciary responsibility for all monies and assets. The parent has. The right to put locals in receivership to prevent funds from being mismanaged or in a way that goes against its bylaws. Seeing the parent organization with local funds I believe is a violation but Lombardo must be focused on other things.

I see that you know a lot about things that don't have anything to do with how rules and regulations work.
Yes attack the only you say anything bad about the twu is when it is against the local officials. Nice spin calling it twu work. Well if it is twu work regarding outsourcing you better give the int a call since they own the contract and your fat bastard was the one that conspired with the company to get it. Suing the int is against the bylaws?????????????? I always new that this was a communist run union and now you confirmed it. Lets face it if it was a violation of the bylaws or anything else lombardo would have had all of the locals reps removed in a heart beat. Maybe you should bring lomardo up on charges for not doing his duty as an int pres if you feel so strongly that 591 violated twu rules The only thing Lombardo is occupied with is screwing the membership with this association that he helped create. I would have thought that you would be pissed at Lombardo after he had you removed from your cush gig that was paying you so well for doing nothing. I know how rules and regulations are suppose to work and that is with consistency and that is not the way the twu applies them.
 
767,
The Int'l owns the contract but locals enforce it. That's how it works. Again you don't know what you are talking about.

You can sue the union but not with the union's money. How is that communist? And it's the Constitution that says that.

The Association has even had the opportunity to do anything yet.
 

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