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Overspeed said:
Bob,
It's a 29d grievance. I can't file it since it's a Presidential grievance. How does a person become a senior rep without evening knowing how a 29d works?
 
Thats right and I'm not a President, thought you knew that. 
 
BTW I believe the 757 Grievance was filed by Local 565 which had DWH, and that was a settlement, not an arbitrated award IIRC. 591 has no OH. 
 
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third grade english articulation is still an issue.
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You're just a sheep you just believe what the TWu tells you don't bother responding to what I tell you I am happy here at UPS I make more money than you do you're a big stupid sheep
 
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Bob or you were at the negotiations you voted you negotiated for your members to get screwed your videos were a hoax deep inside your accompany guy and you love the TWU all you care about is getting money for doing the treasury job which you're no good at The word was someone and I know someone who filed the claim with the labor board so just heads up you going to be getting a subpoena
 
Bob you are a 591 board member and you can make a motion to direct the president to file a 29d. Again, do your job and stop blaming. It's not about you, it's about us. You speak of democracy and the rights of the membership. Apparently that only applies if it fits your agenda. You are no different then people you replaced it seems. That is exactly what you claimed they did but now you do the same things. Make the motion, file the grievance.
 
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That thing is your all and with Peterson Company union people Rumor has it Peterson went in and try to apply for management he should not be a union member he should be thrown out of the union for trying to go into a management
 
brownmech said:
That thing is your all and with Peterson Company union people Rumor has it Peterson went in and try to apply for management he should not be a union member he should be thrown out of the union for trying to go into a management
english is still a challenge......
 
Overspeed said:
Bob you are a 591 board member and you can make a motion to direct the president to file a 29d. Again, do your job and stop blaming. It's not about you, it's about us. You speak of democracy and the rights of the membership. Apparently that only applies if it fits your agenda. You are no different then people you replaced it seems. That is exactly what you claimed they did but now you do the same things. Make the motion, file the grievance.
You are, or claim to be, a member, you can make a motion as well. You feel there is a violation, I don't see it. No other member has come to me and said they wanted us to file either, whats makes you so special that I should do what you say and nobody else wants? I work for the members as a whole, not just Overspeed.
 
As I said before, a point you keep ignoring, Local 591 would not be the rightful greivant anyway, because its not our work and they have not gone over the 35% spend. We could grieve it if that work brought them over the 35% spend but otherwise its OH work, not ours. Your buddy Don set that precedent when they carved out shares from the equity award and only gave it to OH based on the 757 settlement. We were told that we would not get any of that because it wasn't our work, we just paid for it through concessions, both in 2003 and 2012 but we could not expect any benefit from it. You are often complaining about how Local 591 spends the money, so now you want us to file and pay for a grievance where even if we won any monies awarded would go to people who are not Local 591 members? You would be first in line to file a DFR. 
 
Bob Owens said:
Long overdue, but finally added a name to my "ignore list", Brownmech is the one and only.
i have 700, world traveler and weaasels not sure if they are one and the same...
 
dfw gen said:
i have 700, world traveler and weaasels not sure if they are one and the same...
I try to be open minded and responsive to legitimate differences of opinions but that guy is purely a waste of time. I suspect I'm not the only one that feels that way. b700 is a former IAM -US worker, WT is former Delta and WeAAsles is FSC from MIA. 
 
Bob Owens said:
I try to be open minded and responsive to legitimate differences of opinions but that guy is purely a waste of time. I suspect I'm not the only one that feels that way. b700 is a former IAM -US worker, WT is former Delta and WeAAsles is FSC from MIA. 
are you sure its not a sybil type personality disorder and they are all the same? nyer might be a sister personality and about to join my list....
 
dfw gen said:
are you sure its not a sybil type personality disorder and they are all the same? nyer might be a sister personality and about to join my list....
Anything is possible but thats who they say they are, at least when they post.
 
Bob,
So your response is basically I refuse to enforce the contract and you can't make me. Don't like it? File a DFR. And you how loose the language is for a DFR? Even incompetence is protected activity under the DFR provisions. Only discriminatory or intentionally harmful activity is a DFR. Since you truly believe, wrongly, that the language allows this work to be outsourced then it isn't a DFR.

And saying it's OH work shows your true colors. You never carried about OH jobs because you see them as a drag on your line pay. Also the OH claim and loophole you bring up is BS. I spoke with Mosblech, he said the AA busses are going to the US phased MX program so the work is going to be line. So you are not defending AA work that is in our scope line or base.

Again this is a 29d presidential grievance, one of your fellow officers isn't doing his job, compel him with a motion. Me file a motion? Time limits will have killed the grievance by then. Don't you know the contract? You sure know how to make motions and have special board meetings if it affects you directly.

Rojas and Knapp, time for a new direction at 591. Hatfield, Glen in MIA, or Kilbane would be great candidates as Tresurers. Even though Kilbane is an AMFA guy he has great character and ethics. When the 2094 drive was going forward he came forward and resigned his position. Unlike you and many of your 591 officers who advocate for other unions at AA. You allow the use of TWU funds to sue the Int'l. What? That's like your own family member writing checks on your account to sue you because the want the right to have a new family that will give them more stuff. How the Int'l allows that blows me away. Yes we all have the right to speak up and should but not allow the destruction of jobs, not even try to enforce language you don't like, or use dues money for other than what benefits the membership.
 
Bob Owens said:
Anything is possible but thats who they say they are, at least when they post.

You and I did talk on the phone once a few years back. And if you're not sure you can ask AG or AC and they'll back it up that I am who I say.

I did post my name before on here plus my station, gate and hours.
 

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