AFA Work Issues Thread--10/6-

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I am all for it. We will never get a combined contract if we stay with them. Without growth, the only we can make improvements to all areas, reserve etc is with a new contract. If we wait for the pilots, we will never have one. I could care less if I stay with the pilots. No other airline does it.
 
Love staying with the pilots here but simply CAN'T AFFORD to stay together. No splitting........no contract. That said, be sure you have language thats clear. As for not wanting to do "transcon turns"....honey just TRY to get a high time island turn in the PHL base. MMMMM HMMMMM as bad as they might be (think BGI) you can't touch them with a ten foot pool. Transcon turns limited in numbers would be scooped up by those that want them and have the seniority to take them. Sure you'll see the occasional island turn go to a reserve sitting daily but as an individual how many do YOU do in a month? Please. Anyway, not gonna rehash the splitting idea. If it's going to happen it will and we'll continue to live. We have been with them and as nice as it is to have them for the whole trip, contractually it has SUCKED up to this very day. :rolleyes:
 
Love staying with the pilots here but simply CAN'T AFFORD to stay together. No splitting........no contract. That said, be sure you have language thats clear. As for not wanting to do "transcon turns"....honey just TRY to get a high time island turn in the PHL base. MMMMM HMMMMM as bad as they might be (think BGI) you can't touch them with a ten foot pool. Transcon turns limited in numbers would be scooped up by those that want them and have the seniority to take them. Sure you'll see the occasional island turn go to a reserve sitting daily but as an individual how many do YOU do in a month? Please. Anyway, not gonna rehash the splitting idea. If it's going to happen it will and we'll continue to live. We have been with them and as nice as it is to have them for the whole trip, contractually it has SUCKED up to this very day. :rolleyes:
Not to mention the loss of jobs for flight attendants. If a 75 hour line is built now for both groups if we split the flight attendant line will be built at 90 or as close as they can get, thats less flight attendants they will need on the property.
 
They will need the coverage for late inbound crews. they have to keep up their ON-TIME departures to get that big bonus they love.

Quite frankly, at this point I'm sick of being stuck in the 1980's. Pay, mentality, and etc.
 
As a non AFA person, I'm curious, what are the feelings about this (splitting from the pilots)? I can see the advantages and disadvantages of either way, but I'm wondering what the actual FA's think.

If our contract holds significant (and by that I mean HUGE) improvements, I'm happy to split from them. I've worked both with and without them and, while I prefer to stay with them, I'm a big girl who knows my contract, FAR's, and aircraft.

People in general don't like change and I'm sure lots of flight attendants who are having affairs with pilots will be oppossed to it. Quite frankly I have bills to pay and don't care who I fly with. There are good apples and bad apples everywhere. I'm quite content to take care of myself.
 
If our contract holds significant (and by that I mean HUGE) improvements, I'm happy to split from them. I've worked both with and without them and, while I prefer to stay with them, I'm a big girl who knows my contract, FAR's, and aircraft.

People in general don't like change and I'm sure lots of flight attendants who are having affairs with pilots will be oppossed to it. Quite frankly I have bills to pay and don't care who I fly with. There are good apples and bad apples everywhere. I'm quite content to take care of myself.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to make a statement such as f/a's having affairs with pilots as a reason they'd want to keep co-pairing is sort of offensive. At least it is to me. I'm sure there's someone out there playing footsie but to bring it up is kind of in bad taste. And more than likely irrelevant.

IMO.
 
Rule # 1 never date a pilot. When in doubt and charmed by one?- Refer back to Rule #1. :p :lol: We learned that as a 19 y/o in stew school.
 
People in general don't like change and I'm sure lots of flight attendants who are having affairs with pilots will be oppossed to it.

Not only is this insulting, it's just silly. Affairs were so 70s and 80s, just like mini skirts and Golden Sun service.
 
Oh please, save the sensitivity. There is just as much hanky panky today between pilots and flight attendants as in the 70's and 80's. Hell everyone is popping a viagra along with their arthritis pill. I hear enough and see enough on van rides to the hotel that make me wanna puke. You honestly think that those dating or married to a pilot will vote to split from them? AAAAAHAHAHAHA :lol: It's real and happening everyday. Couple all of that with f/a's that STILL......yes STILL don't know when they are going to go illegal. Many of our f/a's couldn't find their own rear or make it out of the airport without the pilots. :rolleyes:
 
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