AA employees get 4% raises

[Jimmy Neutron]

Just my opinion.
 
The cluster puck of the iam/twu association is what is delaying a joint agreement.
iam not talking to twu and vice versa.
IIRC it's been over a year when the association was announced and they haven't done diddly.
If the iam (or twu) would have just conceded to represent AA then you would be about in the same time frame as the APFA.
 
As it is now, you're "years" away for a contract.
 
Your unions are screwing you and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
 
Good Luck Guys N'Gals, you need it..........
 
B) xUT
 

As you may be 100% right on what you just said, that does NOT change the fact that Doug could easily have and should have gave these raises across the board to ALL EMPLOYEES EQUALLY at the exact same time --- I'm NOT sure what message this sends to YOU ---BUT I KNOW ABSOLUTELY the message that it sends to ME personally, the exact same one he's been sending me since he boarded this airline !!!!! Customer service will always be what it is at AA as long as Doug feels some employee's are less important and continues to treat the same said groups this way over and over and over !!!!! Delta is right, about DP, and this airline will NEVER match DL in these area's EVER, as long as PROFITS are put before anything else...... Sorry, but this is just the way it is here !!!! The facts speak for themselves 

 

[toroshark]

Just an excuse to buy more time. There is not going to be an alliance or association or whatever. Greed rules all and 1 union will want the whole pie.

From you lips.............I certainly hope you are correct.

 

[737823]

Wondering what part Jerry G played in this pay rise for some union groups and not others

Guess you didn't know Jerry doesn't have a JD and isn't an attorney.

Josh

 

[bob@las-AA]

It doesn't make up for what we lost in profit sharing !

And just what do you think you would have made from that? You must take up a collection to have your head removed from your vertical smile, better yet I will donate my whole profit check to start you off. You are so sure of your self beveling that its your one and only "Catch me up payday"! Well sir/madame, you are severely misguided to a degree that not even a visit from Dr Phil will cure.  

 

[usfliboi]

I don't know about some...but I certainly feel sorry for those who always sees their glass half empty. imagine ..just imagine how it is to live with these negative miserable people....much less to live with them selves...

 

[Flying low]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking that was one of the "promises" DP made to get the unions to buy into this merger.

 

[bigjets]

Considering the leadership usually advocates to vote no on all TA's, it seems the 4% could be far off. Luckily, we get the September raise and wage adjuster, that seems to be all I can count on as of today.

Let me correct you, some of the leadership will not say anything good or bad about a TA they just negotiated, while another "leader" will bad mouth it and all other negotiators, because he's not responsible for the TA they collectively brought back to membership.

 

[bigjets]

What did he show? He showed that only SOME of us should share in the rewards. 
Good faith would have been giving 4% to ALL work groups regardless of union, non-union and contract status.
 
By the way, how do you feel that management got 4% ON TOP OF THE 6% THEY JUST RECENTLY GOT?
That seem fair to you?

They're non-Union, they shouldn't have the TWU holding them back.

in the 90s Crandall was going to give mechs a bonus for the good job we were doing. He went to TWU, they said no to bonus because FSCs weren't getting one.

Side note, most of the mechs that were here in e 90s are still working, more experiance doesn't make a worse mech, so the troubleshooting chart tells me that the maint program needs adjustment.

 

[MetalMover]

They're non-Union, they shouldn't have the TWU holding them back.

in the 90s Crandall was going to give mechs a bonus for the good job we were doing. He went to TWU, they said no to bonus because FSCs weren't getting one.

Side note, most of the mechs that were here in e 90s are still working, more experiance doesn't make a worse mech, so the troubleshooting chart tells me that the maint program needs adjustment.

You're forgetting the fact that the company said this was a reward for SHARED SUCCESS.....For 2014 namely. 
ALL employees should be sharing in this.
And spare me the "rest of us will get the 4% when our time comes." 
Let me remind you and others that the UA/CO M&R have still NOT reached an agreement with the company.....from 2008!
What makes you think ours will be done overnight when there are so many differences between the AA/US contracts?
 
What if "ours" goes a couple, a  few or many years without a contract and the "OTHERS get 4% for each of those years?
Are you telling me that if it takes 4 years to get a contract, the company is going to give us 4% X 4 years = 16% raise on top of whatever we negotiate?
 
PALEEAAASE!

 

[MetalMover]

 
Considering the leadership usually advocates to vote no on all TA's, it seems the 4% could be far off. Luckily, we get the September raise and wage adjuster, that seems to be all I can count on as of today.

Don't get too excited about the September wage adjuster.....UA/CO still has not gotten a contract. The company is in no rush there. So really our "adjustment will be based on AA/US and DL....This will have a negative effect on the potential wage increase without UA in the formula. 

 

[MetalMover]

Just shows you nonunion is the way to go.

 

Are you really willing to do that? Be an employee at will? No regards to seniority? "Hey, there's an older guy, let's put him on midnights." " Oh there's another old timer there...Let him pick vacation last because all his children are grown up, he doesn't need all the choice weeks."
 
A little sarcasm here, but do not look at DL and say "Hey, being non union ain't all that bad."
They were built on a culture of non unionism mainly to KEEP UNIONS OUT..with exceptions of the pilots. 
 
To all of a sudden and take a traditionally union company and go non union will be disastrous for the worker.

 

[exs]

Have you forgotten the NMB hasn't ruled yet on the alliance and how, if any, it should be voted on?
The one holding the members hostage is the NMB......

Really? Who brought this BS Alliance to the NMB? How many months has this crap taking? If the TWU would of held an internal vote to decide what union the members wanted, maybe this whole process would be almost done and we would be getting this 4% raise or close to it. 
 
It's really hard not to be negative about all of this, but happy for the FA's, they have a union that represents their class and craft and not the interests of blood sucking officers that care only about dues. 
 
Thanks TWU, may I have another !!

 

[700UW]

The following is a message from IAM General Vice President Sito Pantoja regarding American Airlines’ wage increase announcement:

"The IAM was very pleased to receive yesterday’s letter from American’s Chairman and CEO Doug Parker acknowledging the sacrifice and hard work of his unionized work groups that have contributed to the success of the new American. 



Unlike many CEOs, he should be commended for showing the company’s appreciation through more than kind words but through the promise of a four percent  additional  increase in wages for those work groups with ratified joint contracts.

However, for our members, this announcement makes the need for an immediate single carrier determination from the National Mediation Board (NMB) regarding the work groups currently represented by the IAM and TWU all the more critical. Once the NMB issues its decision, the Association representing the combined IAM and TWU work groups can move forward to the expedited negotiation of a long overdue jointly negotiated industry leading contract.



Our members deserve no less and the company has now acknowledged its ability to pay. Accordingly, the IAM will do all in its power to urge the NMB to make its single carrier determination on behalf of the Association immediately, which will trigger negotiations of a unified contract for our members so they can share in the profits they helped create.



With your continued support, and with the combined strength of the IAM and TWU, I am confident that the Association can achieve the industry leading contract that our members have earned.



On behalf of the IAM and the Association, I wish all of you and your families a very Happy Holiday season
 

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

 

The following is a message from IAM General Vice President Sito Pantoja regarding American Airlines’ wage increase announcement:

"The IAM was very pleased to receive yesterday’s letter from American’s Chairman and CEO Doug Parker acknowledging the sacrifice and hard work of his unionized work groups that have contributed to the success of the new American. 



Unlike many CEOs, he should be commended for showing the company’s appreciation through more than kind words but through the promise of a four percent  additional  increase in wages for those work groups with ratified joint contracts.

However, for our members, this announcement makes the need for an immediate single carrier determination from the National Mediation Board (NMB) regarding the work groups currently represented by the IAM and TWU all the more critical. Once the NMB issues its decision, the Association representing the combined IAM and TWU work groups can move forward to the expedited negotiation of a long overdue jointly negotiated industry leading contract.



Our members deserve no less and the company has now acknowledged its ability to pay. Accordingly, the IAM will do all in its power to urge the NMB to make its single carrier determination on behalf of the Association immediately, which will trigger negotiations of a unified contract for our members so they can share in the profits they helped create.



With your continued support, and with the combined strength of the IAM and TWU, I am confident that the Association can achieve the industry leading contract that our members have earned.



On behalf of the IAM and the Association, I wish all of you and your families a very Happy Holiday season
 

 

 
700UW
 
WHY hasn't the TWU/IAM Association been pushing the NMB for a decision before?
 
Wouldn't be they wanted the delay so if the AMFA organizers had enough card they would start to expire in JAN, 2015. Why wouldn't the AFL-CIO /  IAM  /  TWU push before what is in it for them NOW?
 
Many weeks too Late in my opinion, just more bs from these Loser Unions.
 
The Union heads must see something in it for THEM.

 

[swamt]

Really? Who brought this BS Alliance to the NMB? How many months has this crap taking? If the TWU would of held an internal vote to decide what union the members wanted, maybe this whole process would be almost done and we would be getting this 4% raise or close to it. 
 
It's really hard not to be negative about all of this, but happy for the FA's, they have a union that represents their class and craft and not the interests of blood sucking officers that care only about dues. 
 
Thanks TWU, may I have another !!

Yesterday marked the 20th week. NMB received the filing from the association on Aug 6th 2014. This is the longest in the history of SCS filings thru the NMB. If we average the weeks into months = 5 months. I still think it will go thru, it seems to be a matter of will the members have a vote or not.