AA applies for Delta's Seattle-Haneda slot

[eolesen]

Disclaimerol?..

I'll guess that DL has kept the same market share in all of the markets that they maintained after the hub closure and now. Considering those are mostly to their hubs, I'd be more concerned if they couldn't maintain some degree of equilibrium into a fortress market.

 

[silverbird007]

So DL exited DFW and has the same market share now as before
What meds produce this type of logic

maybe a lack of meds, delusions require medication

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

Disclaimerol?..

I'll guess that DL has kept the same market share in all of the markets that they maintained after the hub closure and now. Considering those are mostly to their hubs, I'd be more concerned if they couldn't maintain some degree of equilibrium into a fortress market.

 
Wasn't it that DL maintained dominance to all of their non-coastal USA hubs from DFW (or something like that)?

 

[WorldTraveler]

Too bad DOT doesn't agree with Delta.
 
DOT is allowing the motion to proceed. Answers are due October 17th.

they can allow the process to move forward without anything happening to the route.

and it still doesn't change that the worse that can happen is that they can tell DL to fly the route and amend the award to require more frequent service than a couple operations over a 5 month period.

DL won't lose the route.

And the DOT will have to revise their rules on all route awards if they expect DL to have to fly the route on a more frequent basis than the "can't lay fallow for 90 days" rule.

 

[robbedagain]

Or the DOT cld shock u to the core and deny DL the route though it wld be unlikely but stranger things have happen

 

[eolesen]

they can allow the process to move forward without anything happening to the route.

As long as DL isn't flying it, they're guaranteeing nothing is happening to the route...

and it still doesn't change that the worse that can happen is that they can tell DL to fly the route and amend the award to require more frequent service than a couple operations over a 5 month period.
DL won't lose the route.

And the DOT will have to revise their rules on all route awards if they expect DL to have to fly the route on a more frequent basis than the "can't lay fallow for 90 days" rule.

Yep, and that's how things go when you leave it to the Law of Unintended Consequences.

Personally, changing the rules defining how scarce international resources can be used might not be a bad thing.

What's certain is that it's going to force DL's hand a bit. They might have to hang onto some 744's that they didn't plan to, or reduce frequencies elsewhere. Regardless, it's going to cost them money they weren't planning on spending.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Or the DOT cld shock u to the core and deny DL the route though it wld be unlikely but stranger things have happen

DL already HAS the right.

they can't DENY something DL already has.

They could order DL to fly it again but to do so would require them to change the rules for other route authorities.

 

[MAH4546]

The DOT absolutely is within its power to strip Delta of the route.
 
I don't necessarily think it will happen, but at the least, American Airlines is going to force Delta to fly the route during the off season and lose a ton. 
 
No rules need to change, as even if Delta is acting within the letter of the rules, DOT is allowed to strip the authority because it is not acting within the spirit of the rules. 
 
If DOT felt otherwise, it would not have approved the motion to proceed. It could have thrown out American's motion and be done with it. It chose not to. 

 

[737823]

 
I don't necessarily think it will happen, but at the least, American Airlines is going to force Delta to fly the route during the off season and lose a ton. 

 
I'm sure the SEA-based DL crews and NRSAs traveling to Asia will appreciate this.
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

I'm sure the SEA-based DL crews and NRSAs traveling to Asia will appreciate this.
 
Josh

Running an airline and flying routes are about making money not NRSA travel

 

[737823]

Running an airline and flying routes are about making money not NRSA travel

True never claimed otherwise. But I'm sure WT and the other DL non-revs appreciate the easy street (BE cabin too) to Asia.

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

Are u saying that SEA to Asia is not as good revnue wise compared to LAX to Asia

 

[strangiatotheme]

Running an airline and flying routes are about making money not NRSA travel

 

 

[WorldTraveler]

The DOT absolutely is within its power to strip Delta of the route.
 
I don't necessarily think it will happen, but at the least, American Airlines is going to force Delta to fly the route during the off season and lose a ton. 
 
No rules need to change, as even if Delta is acting within the letter of the rules, DOT is allowed to strip the authority because it is not acting within the spirit of the rules. 
 
If DOT felt otherwise, it would not have approved the motion to proceed. It could have thrown out American's motion and be done with it. It chose not to.

it's incredible how many people here think that rules can be just made up and changed on the fly

The DOT can order DL to fly the route more than it is scheduled but they CANNOT strip the route w/o undoing all of the requirements that are currently built into the SEA-HND route award and dozens of others.

The route isn't go anywhere

Sorry if AA's little Asia restructuring plan just hit a road bump.

AA will have to continue to lose money flying LAX-NRT or drop it

 

[737823]

Are u saying that SEA to Asia is not as good revnue wise compared to LAX to Asia

It's a much larger market than SEA, yes.

Josh