AA and Labor Negotiations-2020

[dfw gen]

ok, so now, can my insurance costs be on par with you?

No but thank you for asking.
"Its an iam thing"

 

[dfw gen]

I see the Association didn't pick you as a winner either.

No "its an iam thing"

 

[dfw gen]

Crema,

Why can’t you be honest with us here. You’re mad that the LUS folks were brought up to “your” wages in 2014. I maintained that we at LUS were paid the same except for when we had our 2nd BK agreement. Other than that all fleet were paid the same. Like Al said, you make it seem as if we should be grateful that we merged with AA. With all the we got you this, if it wasn’t for us you would have that talk. Face it, had there been a vote and the TWU won out, you, the AA folks would have screwed over the LUS guys as much as you could have for what literally amounts to pennies. You wanted holidays/holiday pay before you wanted better insurance. We will just have to disagree. Sometimes you just can’t talk to stupid.

It an iam thing

 

[dfw gen]

America West management × Delta PS = crapola

Now that is "an iam thing"

 

[ALUS78]

Now that is "an iam thing"

Look on the bright side normally a ta would have all but end a card drive.But this insurance thing should keep it going somewhat.

 

[swamt]

9% flowed thru to everybody

Yes. My bad. I confused the PS 10% with the 401K match. I was wrong.

 

[dfw gen]

Look on the bright side normally a ta would have all but end a card drive.But this insurance thing should keep it going somewhat.

Shhhh dont let the secret out. They are very secure in their position.

 

[dfw gen]

Shhhh dont let the secret out. They are very secure in their position.

"Its an iam thing"

 

[swamt]

current pay
base $42.39
mids retention $0.50
line premium $0.55
license $5.00
mid diff $0.02
total today $48.46

proposed $49,21
line pay $01.00
lic prem $5.25
mids diff $0.58
total proposed $56.04

$7.58 per hour raise for line mechanic on mids.

Ok thanks for the info. The line prem. does in fact put you guys above us by 1.00. We do not have a line prem. So, as far as pay rates they(asso.) will pound the IL drum as IL.

And how long until we fall behind DAL, UA, and SWA for the remainder of the contract?

Not long at all, as most were suggesting for some time now. Our 3% out years raises as well as the 6% lead (CC) and the 12% for inspector lead above top out mech., will move ahead within 1-2 years of you new contract.

 

[ALUS78]

"Its an iam thing"

Now that you have at least 5 years to.play with why not form upur own union?? I mean there's got to be a reason UAL dumped AMFA so quickly..ahhhhh SWAM im.just f@@king with ya

 

[swamt]

Does WN have GSE and if so what is the rate of pay? I ask because for the 1st time in my 34 years GSE “ Title ll “ base pay will be less then AMTs.

Yes. We at SWA have GSE.
Pay rate is the exact same as aircraft mechs, minus the lic prem., but an added .50 prem.,for comp.
MIM is correct our GSE mechs get the same "%" increases we get as a/c mechs.

 

[Racer X]

Almost forgot this was a joint negotiations, if ramp or any other title group doesn't pass the contract, no contract for any group even if they passed it. So ramp vote no, a loft of bread cost you the same as it cost to stores and AMT's. You should be getting the 6K also.

That’s not accurate. Each agreement is voted on separately. It is not all pass or none pass

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Who is organizing in JFK? We haven’t heard a peep I will tell you this I never signed a card before because of GP now he is the reason I will!!!

Fleetofoot, If you are not in Title1 or title 2, you can't sign a card, if you are part of our class and craft I am sure if you ask your fellow mechanics they will get you to the organizer at JFK.

 

[dfw gen]

Now that you have at least 5 years to.play with why not form upur own union?? I mean there's got to be a reason UAL dumped AMFA so quickly..ahhhhh SWAM im.just f@@king with ya

The masses would not by amp. The only viable option is amfa.
It really doesnt matter the name on the door, what dose matter is dumping the international's yoke

 

[dfw gen]

That’s not accurate. Each agreement is voted on separately. It is not all pass or none pass

Does that include the flow thru items? Was that a coincidence during seperate negotiations?