2015 Fleet Service thread

[700UW]

https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/_gallery/get_file/?file_id=55a45d135e8eef69d498f24d&ir=1&file_ext=.pdf
 
HA has 760 Mechanic and Related employees and 1,534 Clerical and Ramp.

 

[Tim Nelson]

700, I did compare.  It still sucks real bad and is worse.   How many times do I have to point out the scope clause that your boys gave away to aircraft servicing?  That's all new language.  Exactly what the hell are any of us suppose to like over that jerkoff agreement?
 
regards,

 

[700UW]

700, I did compare.  It still sucks real bad and is worse.   How many times do I have to point out the scope clause that your boys gave away to aircraft servicing?  That's all new language.  Exactly what the hell are any of us suppose to like over that jerkoff agreement?
 
regards,

Jeez, how many times are you going to repeat the same lie?
 
We never reached a TA in bankruptcy part two, and our CBA was abrogated.
 
Are you really that obtuse?
 
And using profanity doesnt make you get your point across, especially since it a big bold face lie.
 
The judge abrogated our CBA, is that too hard to comprehend.
 
And no you didnt compare it, as you said this was new language in regard to RR and part time cap, which is the exact same language in their current CBA.
 
Stop with the lies already.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Jeez, how many times are you going to repeat the same lie?
 
We never reached a TA in bankruptcy part two, and our CBA was abrogated.
 
Are you really that obtuse?
 
And using profanity doesnt make you get your point across, especially since it a big bold face lie.
 
The judge abrogated our CBA, is that too hard to comprehend.
 
And no you didnt compare it, as you said this was new language in regard to RR and part time cap, which is the exact same language in their current CBA.
 
Stop with the lies already.

who was referencing your contract of bk? this conversation is about the hal contract.

regards,

 

[robbedagain]

actually my feelings aint hurt at all  not one dam bit   we have 2 full timers  and 4 part timers doing just the lavs and water   sorry you are such an arse about everything     

 

[robbedagain]

while Tim continues his bashing of the IAM  may we remind him that the IAM at UA is reopening their contracts   that itself is a good start      our 2014 LUS contract is a good deal  

 

[Kev3188]

If the UA agreements were so good, they wouldn't have to be reopening them.

That said, the LUS scope language/letter is fantastic. Keeping that, should be job #1 for your NC...

 

[conehead777]

Jeez, how many times are you going to repeat the same lie?
 
We never reached a TA in bankruptcy part two, and our CBA was abrogated.
 
Are you really that obtuse?
 
And using profanity doesnt make you get your point across, especially since it a big bold face lie.
 
The judge abrogated our CBA, is that too hard to comprehend.
 
And no you didnt compare it, as you said this was new language in regard to RR and part time cap, which is the exact same language in their current CBA.
 
Stop with the lies already.

your the one who can't comprehend he was talking bot ha contracts. Your touchy about that pos us air contract that you were on the nc . Show prove what the judge did . I do not beleave your word

 

[Tim Nelson]

while Tim continues his bashing of the IAM  may we remind him that the IAM at UA is reopening their contracts   that itself is a good start      our 2014 LUS contract is a good deal

You are no more than a shill for the very people who have hosed you more than anyone. You allow so much stuff blown up your arse. You can't even say how bad that United and Hawaiian contract is, can you? And you would be just fine if the IAM agrees to cash in catering work, right? Or maybe you won't but you won't say or express a damn thing about what would be wrong with that would you? Hopefully, your station has more than 15 flights because I'm hearing the deal is already done with catering [250 jobs] gone and no station below 15 flights, and LAA health care. That would wipe out 12 of our smaller LUS stations [about 300 jobs], and add about 8 other mid stations [increase of 750 jobs] I'm told. IAH, RSW, DTW, etc.
You wouldn't say so, but I'd say it would be a shame if catering and the smaller stations survived bankruptcy only to be wiped out by a half baked side deal.

The best deal would be NO DEAL for LUS unless we gained. But saying the money is there, but then bill us for LAA medical and whack catering and 12 small stations is a price to high imo.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

your the one who can't comprehend he was talking bot ha contracts. Your touchy about that pos us air contract that you were on the nc . Show prove what the judge did . I do not beleave your word

The guy can't even say that the Hawaiian contract blows. Just 3 months ago, he was blabbing his mouth about how ruthless Delta was for having ready reserve. LMAO. The reality is that the IAM started ready reserve language in this industry with the 1999 LUS fleet service agreement, and has agreed to support it mightedly at Hawaiian. These sorry souls on ready reserve have no health care, no nothing but have to pay $72 a month to this bastard union.

regards,

 

[700UW]

Coney

Look it up it happened I lived it and was on the NC and at the section 1113 C trial.

How uninformed you are. January of 2005, Judge Stephen Mitchell, Bankruptcy Court, Alexandria, VA.

 

[WeAAsles]

You are no more than a shill for the very people who have hosed you more than anyone. You allow so much stuff blown up your arse. You can't even say how bad that United and Hawaiian contract is, can you? And you would be just fine if the IAM agrees to cash in catering work, right? Or maybe you won't but you won't say or express a damn thing about what would be wrong with that would you? Hopefully, your station has more than 15 flights because I'm hearing the deal is already done with catering [250 jobs] gone and no station below 15 flights, and LAA health care. That would wipe out 12 of our smaller LUS stations [about 300 jobs], and add about 8 other mid stations [increase of 750 jobs] I'm told. IAH, RSW, DTW, etc.You wouldn't say so, but I'd say it would be a shame if catering and the smaller stations survived bankruptcy only to be wiped out by a half baked side deal.The best deal would be NO DEAL for LUS unless we gained. But saying the money is there, but then bill us for LAA medical and whack catering and 12 small stations is a price to high imo.regards,

Since the Association (TWU and IAM negotiators 6 each) aren't even sitting down with the company till January 11, how are these deals already done? Remember you had a TOTAL and COMPLETE red herring on ALL the things you said on here that were going to happen for the US standalone agreement.

Tim if this person who is supposedly telling YOU these things is the same guy as the last time, why are you listening to him? I seem to remember the last time you called this mole of yours Wikileaks. Are we going to call your source Edward Snowden this time?

But yes I do agree that those Ready Reserves should not have to pay $72 if they are? Do you have written verifiable proof that that is what they are paying?

 

[Kev3188]

...and no station below 15 flights...

A 15 flight threshold-even if that includes Express work- in this day & age? Inexcusable.

Let's remember that DL has some places staffed with far less than that. A vestigial reminder of when IAM scope clauses actually meant something...

 

[robbedagain]

Apparently no one elected u before to be on the negotiations table did they? Ive said it in the past and continue to say that ua got a horrendous deal hence theyre reopening the contract hopefully theyll get better deal

Kev i agree w ya bro i for one hope the nc will get the company to grandfather all current cities w mainline and enhance it more

Tim all i have to say im happy w hpw my case turned out period 700 was very helpful in helping me during the time i needed it

 

[700UW]

Thanks robbed, it was my pleasure.