2015 Fleet Service thread

[bob@las-AA]

alittle off topic but for the DFW guys how far is At&T stadiium from the airport and is there public trans to it?

It about 12-15 miles, travel south on the 157 and its on the left.
You would have to get on line for public transport, I don't know any of the bus routes.

 

[WeAAsles]

alittle off topic but for the DFW guys how far is At&T stadiium from the airport and is there public trans to it?

12 miles. If you're lucky this will help.

http://www.dart.org/riding/destinationinformation.asp

 

[cltrat]

thks guys some of us thinking about seeing Guns n Roses there in August

 

[WeAAsles]

thks guys some of us thinking about seeing Guns n Roses there in August

If you got a few guys just take a cab. Save yourself the headache of figuring out busses and all of that. Or better still just rent a car between you all. And use your GPS to get around.

Enjoy the show. Better buy those tickets as soon as they go on sale though. Guaranteed sellout probably less than an hour after they're released.

 

[wings396]

The 170s and 175s are worked by mainline in CLT.

As they are in several other stations, but technically its not contractually our work. Republic can contract with anyone they wish to work those flights as they did in PIT. In CLT & PHL, its more of a lack of a separate area to have their own personal.

 

[Tim Nelson]

As they are in several other stations, but technically its not contractually our work. Republic can contract with anyone they wish to work those flights as they did in PIT. In CLT & PHL, its more of a lack of a separate area to have their own personal.

its about 850 jobs in phl, 400 in clt, and 100+ in dca. cant get rid of 500 catering jobs and not get any trade off if thats what is goin on. Catering 4survived bankruptcy so there shouldnt b any reason to ditch it now. We have a contract so its not like we have to freak out and panic. There was an unnecessary delay getting in negotiations but the negotiation team seems to be addressing things. Presently, they are addressing this temp employee stuff. Not sure what is in the laa contract but we gotta tighten up that temp employee language and have the patience to allow negotiations to take its course.

regards,

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

When you say temps are you talking about employees of contracted companies or are you talking about employees who are working for AA (as opposed to a contract company) through a temp service?

 

[WeAAsles]

its about 850 jobs in phl, 400 in clt, and 100+ in dca. cant get rid of 500 catering jobs and not get any trade off if thats what is goin on. Catering 4survived bankruptcy so there shouldnt b any reason to ditch it now. We have a contract so its not like we have to freak out and panic. There was an unnecessary delay getting in negotiations but the negotiation team seems to be addressing things. Presently, they are addressing this temp employee stuff. Not sure what is in the laa contract but we gotta tighten up that temp employee language and have the patience to allow negotiations to take its course.

regards,

If there is any issue on the Temporary Employees it's a ridiculous argument to be having. Temporary employees "were" primarily brought in to handle the Christmas rush of all the mail we used to get prior to Sept 11. We haven't hired as far as I know even one temp since and the reasons why are two fold. 

Reason #1 we don't get as much mail anymore. The USPS sends most of the mail it can't handle over to Fed Ex and UPS and with the BK language we aren't even in the mail-house anymore anyway. It's been contracted out. A contracting company even drives the mail over and picks it up. 

Reason #2 since Sept 11 it takes much longer and much more time to acquire an AOA badge and to get a customs seal if you are in an international airport. Even if they don't give a temp employee all the same training that a permanent employee would receive (And they would have to if they wanted to use them on the line) I've heard the cost to the company for each is around $10,000.

Temporary Employees are just not cost effective and the company is NEVER going to use them EVER again. Again not an argument I would have any concern over.

Common sense should be a shrugging of the shoulders on the issue if the Company wants to keep the language. All it would be is a waste of the paper it's written on.
 
Read Article 35 page 106

http://twu.org/Portals/0/AirContracts/aa_FleetServiceAgreement.pdf
 

 

 

[robbedagain]

in the IAM contract we typically handle mail    WeAA  thanks for the AA side   I know on LUS side  our PHX typically carries 3k or more or less of mail on any given day let alone the holidays  CLT also sends us mail  from time to time   DFW will send us typically 3k or less mail on what seems to be every other week or month kind of basis

 

[WeAAsles]

in the IAM contract we typically handle mail    WeAA  thanks for the AA side   I know on LUS side  our PHX typically carries 3k or more or less of mail on any given day let alone the holidays  CLT also sends us mail  from time to time   DFW will send us typically 3k or less mail on what seems to be every other week or month kind of basis

Well it would be nice to get back mail on our side. We'll see? Even if it isn't much.

Anyway back in the day they would bring in those temps like I said to help because of all the mail at Christmas time. Absolutely it would cut down on any extra OT that would be needed to accommodate all that extra work. But again I think the last time I remember them bringing in temps was back in 2000 where I was in DFW at the time.

It actually caused a big stink that year because supposedly local management never told these people that they were only temps and they thought they were being brought in permanently. They let them all go on Christmas day and it made the local papers.

"How the AA Grinch stole Christmas"

 

[Kev3188]

As they are in several other stations, but technically its not contractually our work. Republic can contract with anyone they wish to work those flights as they did in PIT. In CLT & PHL, its more of a lack of a separate area to have their own personal.

Securing /all/ express work systemwide should be high on 141's list.

 

[Worldport]

Securing /all/ express work systemwide should be high on 141's list.

The express groups Piedmont and Envoy have union contracts too

 

[WeAAsles]

The express groups Piedmont and Envoy have union contracts too

Exactly.

 

[cltrat]

weAAsle here in CLT since we atarted using the NOTOC system there have been way too many mistakes made by the cargo contract company with the way items are shown or sometimes not shown properly in NOTOC sometimes an item will not show on the scanner or perhaps not even the load plan.Crew Chiefs are being held accountable for this mess here.I'm wondering if in a station where cargo is handled by our people if that such an issue? If so how much mor of a point does the union need to argue for getting cargo back in PUS hubs?

 

[Tim Nelson]

If there is any issue on the Temporary Employees it's a ridiculous argument to be having. Temporary employees "were" primarily brought in to handle the Christmas rush of all the mail we used to get prior to Sept 11. We haven't hired as far as I know even one temp since and the reasons why are two fold. 
Reason #1 we don't get as much mail anymore. The USPS sends most of the mail it can't handle over to Fed Ex and UPS and with the BK language we aren't even in the mail-house anymore anyway. It's been contracted out. A contracting company even drives the mail over and picks it up. 
Reason #2 since Sept 11 it takes much longer and much more time to acquire an AOA badge and to get a customs seal if you are in an international airport. Even if they don't give a temp employee all the same training that a permanent employee would receive (And they would have to if they wanted to use them on the line) I've heard the cost to the company for each is around $10,000.
Temporary Employees are just not cost effective and the company is NEVER going to use them EVER again. Again not an argument I would have any concern over.
Common sense should be a shrugging of the shoulders on the issue if the Company wants to keep the language. All it would be is a waste of the paper it's written on.
 
Read Article 35 page 106 http://twu.org/Portals/0/AirContracts/aa_FleetServiceAgreement.pdf

we have to be mindful of the industry. At United, they use hundreds and hundreds of temp agents. In ord at least a few hundred starting in april or may every year. So, im glad we are addressing it, just in case.

regards,