2015 Fleet Service thread

[Tim Nelson]

The express groups Piedmont and Envoy have union contracts too

Thats the conflict with having the same union representing vendors.

Is the company still trying to get rid of envoy?

regards,

 

[cltrat]

Thats the conflict with having the same union representing vendors.

Is the company still trying to get rid of envoy?

regards,

that's a problem for sure where it happens, here in CLT thy have been unionized for a couple years but it's not IAM. 700 probably knows who but I don't.

 

[Tim Nelson]

that's a problem for sure where it happens, here in CLT thy have been unionized for a couple years but it's not IAM. 700 probably knows who but I don't.

 
CWA has Piedmont.
 
regards,
 

 

[WeAAsles]

weAAsle here in CLT since we atarted using the NOTOC system there have been way too many mistakes made by the cargo contract company with the way items are shown or sometimes not shown properly in NOTOC sometimes an item will not show on the scanner or perhaps not even the load plan.Crew Chiefs are being held accountable for this mess here.I'm wondering if in a station where cargo is handled by our people if that such an issue? If so how much mor of a point does the union need to argue for getting cargo back in PUS hubs?

Being honest it happens with our people at the helm also. But I have to assume a lot less often then from a vendor. The reason why I say that is because a vendor does our mail and we have too many times to count the mail showing up late or not at all.

 

[WeAAsles]

we have to be mindful of the industry. At United, they use hundreds and hundreds of temp agents. In ord at least a few hundred starting in april or may every year. So, im glad we are addressing it, just in case.
regards,

I'll only take T5's words on this issue regarding UAL since it's the airline he works for and not you.

Please take what I just said personally.

Regards.

 

[WeAAsles]

that's a problem for sure where it happens, here in CLT thy have been unionized for a couple years but it's not IAM. 700 probably knows who but I don't.

The only way to remove a vendor even if they are Unionized is for AA to let the contract expire or buy out the contract with whatever terms were written. As for the TWU represented AE group those planes are owned by AA so they can't be removed and they do have a contract that falls under the same guidelines of the RLA as ours do.

 

[Zom JFK]

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[Zom JFK]

an agreement without limits on part time is not a good thing

A cap on part time doesn't mean much when your union doesn't enforce it. The twu never has.

 

[wings396]

In most of the LUS hubs, the 170/75 A/C don't fit on the gates at the Express terminal. This is basically the only reason the there are IAM ML employees working these flights. If the company finds a way to squeeze them in with the other Express flights, you can bet that Piedmont/Envoy will be ground handling them.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I'll only take T5's words on this issue regarding UAL since it's the airline he works for and not you.
Please take what I just said personally.
Regards.

Im not sure T5 suggest that EWR UA doesnt have any temps. Can you cite or reference a TStowbar post because ive learned that you speak out.....

At any rate, the reality is much different than what your post says. For instance, EWR has around100 so far that are temps and additional hiring is ongoing.

regards,

 

[Kev3188]

Exactly.

And?

That doesn't change the argument that 141 should be securing that work for you guys.

 

[WeAAsles]

And?
That doesn't change the argument that 141 should be securing that work for you guys.

As far as I know the TWU/IAM Association hasn't started talking about that area of SCOPE yet. I'm sure that both sides will try to secure and gain as much work as possible.

Why would anyone assume that they wouldn't?

 

[700UW]

It's obvious someone doesn't care for 141 leadership but just look at the last PMUS fleet CBA, compared to the last UA CBA and its apples and oranges.

 

[Kev3188]

It's obvious someone doesn't care for 141 leadership...

I clearly don't, and that should shock exactly no one on this thread.

Maybe if they did things like go after more work, I'd reconsider...

 

[WeAAsles]

I clearly don't, and that should shock exactly no one on this thread.
Maybe if they did things like go after more work, I'd reconsider...

Kev unlike the guys on the mechanics thread at least I'm glad that you have the ability to differentiate the IAM as a whole collective from a few individuals that you don't like in one District.

But the facts don't lie. The guys in that District just secured far more work at UAL then even I thought they would possibly be able to. Absolutely some of that credit needs to go to Munoz for giving it but you also have to give those negotiators some credit for being able to argue the point to secure it.

And it's the members there who ultimately are the ones to give them credit or not. And they just did in overwhelming numbers.

85% Yes
to
15% No

Obviously you agree with the extreme minority on this one.