2015 Fleet Service thread

[700UW]

DL is non-union, the employees don't negotiate their pay rate or anything

Do you know what an employee at will is?

 

[Worldport]

DL is non-union, the employees don't negotiate their pay rate or anything

Do you know what an employee at will is?

 I know the CEO of the company I work for said my pay will be based on DL whether they be union or not is no concern to me, If you are implying they could change their rates at will, technically you are correct. Highly doubtful however unless the whole industry goes down and if that were to happen I'm sure as in the past there will be plenty of  union givebacks. 

 

[CMH_GSE]

DL is non-union, the employees don't negotiate their pay rate or anything
Do you know what an employee at will is?

I'll try and answer that one,
AFW employees?

 

[700UW]

I know the CEO of the company I work for said my pay will be based on DL whether they be union or not is no concern to me, If you are implying they could change their rates at will, technically you are correct. Highly doubtful however unless the whole industry goes down and if that were to happen I'm sure as in the past there will be plenty of  union givebacks.

So you are just going to accept what he says?

Glad your not on the negotiating committee.

Why don't you just tell the NCs to stop negotiating and just accept what Doug offers?

 

[Worldport]

So you are just going to accept what he says?

Glad your not on the negotiating committee.

Why don't you just tell the NCs to stop negotiating and just accept what Doug offers?

It would be quicker and with the same results

 

[700UW]

It would be quicker and with the same results

Guess you never hear Doug say being a ramper is not a career.

If you really think it would be the same then I have some ocean front property in Arizona for you to buy.

HP was the lowest paid in the industry.

 

[Black Magic]

It would be quicker and with the same results

That's the whole ruse of it all. The longer it takes the more $ the company saves and more likely the membership will vote yes on any jcba put forth. Outsourcing, higher insurance, no profit sharing? Doesnt matter when you are missing out on $800 a month on average.

 

[Worldport]

That's the whole ruse of it all. The longer it takes the more $ the company saves and more likely the membership will vote yes on any cba put worth. Outsourcing, higher insurance, no profit sharing? Doesnt matter when you are missing out on $1120 a month on average.

I still think the association is the reason the contract negotiations are going to  prolonged.

 

[WeAAsles]

I know the CEO of the company I work for said my pay will be based on DL whether they be union or not is no concern to me, If you are implying they could change their rates at will, technically you are correct. Highly doubtful however unless the whole industry goes down and if that were to happen I'm sure as in the past there will be plenty of  union givebacks.

Here's the scenario as I picture it.

It's time for our negotiators to discuss wages. Our guys tell the company that the members they represent want, deserve, demand more than the promised 7 Oops I mean 3% now rate. Firm faces from our negotiators as the company pulls out the copies of all these conversations here and on Facebook threads. A nice stack. The company then says "Uh you were saying"

Of course then as the company laughs at them our negotiators are left with no choice and heads bowed very low to except the Meaty Bone.

Poor bastards thanks to their own members didn't even stand a chance as the hammer hit them right in the back of the head.

BTW "I" really do believe that 3% is subpar personally.

 

[Worldport]

Here's the scenario as I picture it.

It's time for our negotiators to discuss wages. Our guys tell the company that the members they represent want, deserve, demand more than the promised 7 Oops I mean 3% now rate. Firm faces from our negotiators as the company pulls out the copies of all these conversations here and on Facebook threads. A nice stack. The company then says "Uh you were saying"

Of course then as the company laughs at them our negotiators are left with no choice and heads bowed very low to except the Meaty Bone.

Poor bastards thanks to their own members didn't even stand a chance as the hammer hit them right in the back of the head.

BTW "I" really do believe that 3% is subpar personally.

Okay Okay I am personally responsible for the delay in negotiations  and the weak contract we get. I screwed up

 

[Worldport]

That's the whole ruse of it all. The longer it takes the more $ the company saves and more likely the membership will vote yes on any jcba put forth. Outsourcing, higher insurance, no profit sharing? Doesnt matter when you are missing out on $800 a month on average.

How will you make up that $800? It's gone

 

[WeAAsles]

Okay Okay I am personally responsible for the delay in negotiations  and the weak contract we get. I screwed up

Of course not. In no way shape or form. I really wish we could have had it done 6 months ago as a matter of fact. Locked in at $26.50 watching everyone freak if DL gave out that 14% and our guys being told "see you in 2020"

Did our guys get lucky on that one? Yep. But dumb luck can still wind up being good luck sometimes.

 

[Worldport]

Of course not. In no way shape or form. I really wish we could have had it done 6 months ago as a matter of fact. Locked in at $26.50 watching everyone freak if DL gave out that 14% and our guys being told "see you in 2020"

Did our guys get lucky on that one? Yep. But dumb luck can still wind up being good luck sometimes.

Honestly, you're not discouraged by Parker's remarks on negotiations Friday?

 

[WeAAsles]

How will you make up that $800? It's gone

Would have been a lot less than that per month had we taken out one of those 9 month situations.

The IAM going for their standalone agreement (In hindsight the right thing to do)

Or having to wait for the NMB to certify the Association.

That math I did a ways back was I believe a $5000.00 loss for one year as opposed to a $30,000 loss over the life of a 5 year deal. 30k = 1 extra year of retirement with a decent return on investment.

 

[WeAAsles]

Honestly, you're not discouraged by Parker's remarks on negotiations Friday?

I heard something different then you I guess in that investors earning call. I posted what he said a ways back.

The only negative I heard was that he doesn't "believe" it will be finished this quarter. (?)

He also said he "thinks" it will be done quick (?) QUICK means different times to different people.