Kev3188
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^Nailed it^topDawg said:
2015 Fleet Service thread
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Tim Nelson
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Just because LUS has something [Catering, Tower] doesn't mean we can't keep what we have since it is station specific. During mergers, it is almost never 'this way' or 'that way'. When considering the AW US merger, we kept the small stations at AW without adding small stations on the US side. We kept the freight at AW [LAX, PHX] without adding the freight at the US side. We kept the catering at US without adding the catering on the AW side. If we take a historical approach then there is nothing saying that we have to lose Catering at the LUS side or that LAA have to lose freight. Considering the monster profits, this should be just as much a "Deal breaker" as Parker has made placing LAA healthcare on LUS a 'dealbreaker'.
Scope is something that the CWA/IBT should have made a deal breaker but they didn't.
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WeAAsles
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Now you're thinking straight Tim.Tim Nelson said:
It seems to me like people have gotten stuck on the "what do I have to give up" mentality. I guess since deregulation and even more so everything that happened after 9/11 it's understandable. If all a dog has known all his life is beatings, then any time a hand comes near him he's going to cower thinking he's going to be hit again. It's instinctual.
But in a lot of your comments you said "without adding" Why the hell shouldn't we start thinking about "adding"?
BTW all those airline mergers that happened in the past mostly all happened when the industry was in a tailspin. It's certainly far from that right now and then some.
WeAAsles
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You guys should add Freight and Mail and on our side I want our Cabin Service and Mail back. The old AA "STOLE" those jobs from us at the hands of a BK gun.cltrat said:
Before they went into BK the only reason we were even going to vote the jobs away was because they threatened us with the BK hammer. Otherwise they were trying to get those jobs for years and years with zero luck.
Pretty easy to mug someone when you're holding a loaded gun to their heads.
WeAAsles
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American won't report its fourth-quarter results until next week, but its most recent performance included its eighth straight quarter of record profits. A 3.9% drop in revenue didn't keep the company from posting a 55% increase in its adjusted pre-tax income that sent American's earnings per share up by two-thirds from year-earlier levels. The integration of US Airways has gone relatively well. The one disadvantage going forward is that future fuel-cost savings will rely on further drops in energy prices, because unlike Delta, American got most of its benefit from lower fuel expenses quickly because of its unhedged position.
In terms of future growth, both companies are poised to capitalize on key opportunities in their respective markets. In the near-term, Delta might grow slightly more, but American fully expects to catch up and surpass its rival in the long run.
Airlines have seen huge growth over the past several years, but changing conditions pose a threat to their upside potential. Based on these factors, American Airlines Group looks like a slightly better buy based on valuation, but Delta Air Lines also has plenty of ability to climb in the years ahead as well.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/23/better-buy-delta-air-lines-inc-or-american-airline.aspx?source=eogyholnk0000001&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article
In terms of future growth, both companies are poised to capitalize on key opportunities in their respective markets. In the near-term, Delta might grow slightly more, but American fully expects to catch up and surpass its rival in the long run.
Airlines have seen huge growth over the past several years, but changing conditions pose a threat to their upside potential. Based on these factors, American Airlines Group looks like a slightly better buy based on valuation, but Delta Air Lines also has plenty of ability to climb in the years ahead as well.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/23/better-buy-delta-air-lines-inc-or-american-airline.aspx?source=eogyholnk0000001&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article
robbedagain
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ive long believe given the huge profits we shall not have to give a dam thing up its high time we get all we lost back and more
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I've read quite a few posts with remarks about the members having a what do we give up or trade attitude. I think this contract is different in that giving anything up is just not acceptable at all. I work with mostly guys with over 30 years seniority and it may sound easy to take money and sell out lots of other things but I do not see that with this situation. I can only say this association better bring back an industry leading deal. Many bitter guys after 13 years of pain and 30 bucks an hour with a bunch of other crap thrown in isn't going to cut it.WeAAsles said:
robbedagain
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Personally I cant do a dam thing but go with the flow as usual the hubs will pretty much carry the yea votes....
WeAAsles
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robbed: At least in Fleet the interests of small cities are absolutely being considered. On the TWU side there is only one Hub President in those negotiations and that's Brian Oyer out of DFW. Andre Sutton out of LAX is in a large city but not the size of the one's left out of the talks NYC, MIA and ORD.robbedagain said:
The hubs of course carry the votes because that's where the most amount of people work. But I don't see anyone looking to sell out you guys that aren't where we are.
