2015 Fleet Service thread

[Jester]

Let's hope that the trades/swaps/drops we have become so accustom to enjoying are not changed by these pending lawsuits attempting to "help" workers.  Typically transport workers were exempt from Federal labor laws because the very nature of long-distance traveling wasn't in the public interest to have trains stop in the middle of the country because the crews were working more than 8 hours.  Obviously, rampers are not on the same circumstances of long-distance traveling as would flight crews and railroad train crews, but we become thrown in as "transport workers" because of other workers' situations.
 
As we know, most employers would reject employees attempting to double-up shifts which excess 8 hours, as in most cases that would lead to overtime, and if done without management approvals, it could lead to terminations. Many rampers enjoy that option as it permits us to pick-up additional hours, use our travel benefits, attend to other obligations, commute from another city or just take time off, so let's hope this remains unchanged.

 

[Worldport]

Let's hope that the trades/swaps/drops we have become so accustom to enjoying are not changed by these pending lawsuits attempting to "help" workers.  Typically transport workers were exempt from Federal labor laws because the very nature of long-distance traveling wasn't in the public interest to have trains stop in the middle of the country because the crews were working more than 8 hours.  Obviously, rampers are not on the same circumstances of long-distance traveling as would flight crews and railroad train crews, but we become thrown in as "transport workers" because of other workers' situations.
 
As we know, most employers would reject employees attempting to double-up shifts which excess 8 hours, as in most cases that would lead to overtime, and if done without management approvals, it could lead to terminations. Many rampers enjoy that option as it permits us to pick-up additional hours, use our travel benefits, attend to other obligations, commute from another city or just take time off, so let's hope this remains unchanged.

The lawmakers need  to do a better job thinking things though and not shooting from the hip. Some if not majority of the workers they are trying to help will actually suffer

 

[AANOTOK]

I was told anything over 40 per week in PR has to be paid Double Time. Plus they have a few other laws as well like a severance for the amount of years you've worked.

I believe they also get paid weekly.

 

[WeAAsles]

I believe they also get paid weekly.

NY also.

 

[Tim Nelson]

If we don't have a settlement by spring, is likely that Parker may start shifting work, especially in PHL if he is bringing Envoy in there to replace or enhance Republic. Presently, in PHL, 40% of our members jobs are NOT protected by scope. There are hundreds that work Republic that Parker can switch over to be contracted out, along with a couple hundred in that other area. When Parker said he wanted an expedited time schedule and contract, I believe he meant. For that reason, I think we will have a contract by late March that will be voted upon presumably by Late May, early June.

regards,

 

[robbedagain]

Tim  I cant see how Parker would outsource PHL in particular   given that it would cause one hell of chaos  not just phl  but probably system wide   esp if other cities back phl

 

[Worldport]

If we don't have a settlement by spring, is likely that Parker may start shifting work, especially in PHL if he is bringing Envoy in there to replace or enhance Republic. Presently, in PHL, 40% of our members jobs are NOT protected by scope. There are hundreds that work Republic that Parker can switch over to be contracted out, along with a couple hundred in that other area. When Parker said he wanted an expedited time schedule and contract, I believe he meant. For that reason, I think we will have a contract by late March that will be voted upon presumably by Late May, early June.

regards,

You are talking PHL losing catering and the 70 seaters that might be in excess of 400 people. They can't possibly absorb that many clerks. Choose one or the other, interesting scenario. If you're trying to stir the pot  I will admit it is well thought out .

 

[Tim Nelson]

You are talking PHL losing catering and the 70 seaters that might be in excess of 400 people. They can't possibly absorb that many clerks. Choose one or the other, interesting scenario. If you're trying to stir the pot  I will admit it is well thought out .

The non protected work in PHL with Republic is 700 jobs. My understanding is that Parker wants catering abolished and won't incorporate freight. But apparently, he has brought into discussions all of the other non covered work to make it clear to the IAM that he can make it hell on the IAM if it doesn't play reasonable. Never mind the hundreds of jobs in DCA. There are hundreds of non protected members in the system, while still also in hiring mode out west. As with any possible displacement, only 10% flock. The rest take layoff or retirement. At any rate, imo, the fact that it was mentioned, suggest to me, that Parker really doesn't want to contract out these jobs since he doesn't need the IAM consent to do so. For that reason, I think he will continue to have IAM members work such express activity as long as a fair agreement can be reached soon. Otherwise, so what?

regards,

 

[Worldport]

The non protected work in PHL with Republic is 700 jobs. My understanding is that Parker wants catering abolished and won't incorporate freight. But apparently, he has brought into discussions all of the other non covered work to make it clear to the IAM that he can make it hell on the IAM if it doesn't play reasonable. Never mind the hundreds of jobs in DCA. There are hundreds of non protected members in the system, while still also in hiring mode out west. As with any possible displacement, only 10% flock. The rest take layoff or retirement. At any rate, imo, the fact that it was mentioned, suggest to me, that Parker really doesn't want to contract out these jobs since he doesn't need the IAM consent to do so. For that reason, I think he will continue to have IAM members work such express activity as long as a fair agreement can be reached soon. Otherwise, so what?

regards,

The work is not protected? There is no LOA anywhere  in contract? What about Envoy's contract what does it say about mainline working their metal?

 

[WeAAsles]

The work is not protected? There is no LOA anywhere  in contract? What about Envoy's contract what does it say about mainline working their metal?

Page 177 and 178.

http://iam141.org/us/docs/IAM-FS2014-10-7-14-4-3.pdf

 

[Worldport]

Page 177 and 178.

http://iam141.org/us/docs/IAM-FS2014-10-7-14-4-3.pdf

I dont see where 75 seat Republic a/c are covered. If the negotiators come back and say we are going keep catering and lose 70 seat a/c to envoy I don't think to many of us (LAA) will vote no if we are going to get a substantial raise

 

[robbedagain]

Weve heard rumors that catering could be gone given LAA does use LSG even in their hubs   but other rumors are going around too that mail/freight be gone   Even in our station where we still do it and get quite a bit of heavy loads  rumor has it our local post is taking over all mail and freight  and theyre training new peeps on that.   LAA has had a mail freight runner for years

 

[Kev3188]

DL is allegedly outsourcing mail handling in ATL...

 

[robbedagain]

kev  from what ive heard  we don't handle mail in our hubs  but we sure do get tons of it  coming from the hubs  in particular phx dfw and clt    rare from mia and never from phl   it does not come as shock that dl would allegedly outsource mail handling in ATL

 

[NYer]

If we don't have a settlement by spring, is likely that Parker may start shifting work, especially in PHL if he is bringing Envoy in there to replace or enhance Republic. Presently, in PHL, 40% of our members jobs are NOT protected by scope. There are hundreds that work Republic that Parker can switch over to be contracted out, along with a couple hundred in that other area. When Parker said he wanted an expedited time schedule and contract, I believe he meant. For that reason, I think we will have a contract by late March that will be voted upon presumably by Late May, early June.

regards,

 
No way.