2015 Fleet Service thread

[700UW]

good to hear that you weren't part of the forgery and underhanded actions that screwed up representation rights for 30,000 peeps.regards,

There to go again.

Only people that needed cards were the US members who signed IBT cards, keep spread the BS.

I worked the IBT raid for the IAM at US for the mechanic and related group

Didn't work DL and did the NMB or DOJ say the IAM forged cards?

Nope neither agency has released any investigation results.

And you wonder why you have zero credibility and can't get elected.

 

[WeAAsles]

He's polarizing, but labor (actually any group, really) needs a dissenting voice like Tim's. If labor hadn't been asleep at the switch for the last 20 years, we wouldn't be in the spot we're in.
Here are some other uncomfortable truths:
The UA T/A is craft killing.
Klemm's move to change the voting bylaws at 141 is momentum killing.
The organizing manual at the GL needs some very serious updating.
Also, not for nothing, but I was 4 for 5 in the elections I was in...

Always need a good counterbalance Kev. But Tim takes things much further than necessary to the point where reasonable people who might listen to him don't for all grandstanding.

And his politics are his own but when he makes up fabrications that can possibly affect our negotiations and its progress is where I have the problem with him. "His lies"

That JCBA is money that will go into my wallet eventually and I think we've all waited long enough without needing his shenanigans too.

 

[Tim Nelson]

There to go again.

Only people that needed cards were the US members who signed IBT cards, keep spread the BS.

I worked the IBT raid for the IAM at US for the mechanic and related group

Didn't work DL and did the NMB or DOJ say the IAM forged cards?

Nope neither agency has released any investigation results.

And you wonder why you have zero credibility and can't get elected.

Who mentioned anything about Delta?
At any rate, I was just saying it's good that you weren't a part of any forgery. I have no problem getting elected at my own local, never lost actually. But national elections are tough, as you know. That said, even at the local level, I smoked all of the United AGC's here in ORD because of my credibility. Without one single United employee who works at ORD airport, and I still covered for my entire ticket, and plenty of it. It's called credibility dufus. If ORD thought I was a nitwit, it would be impossible for me to beat the 5 ORD United peeps who ran against me. Nonetheless, I smoked them all.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

Alright Tim. Carrying on.

Did you ever consider bying some TV ad time for your campaigns? Or maybe Public Access stations? They don't cost too much.

I like Charlie Rose personally. Maybe if you write enough letters he'll agree to interview you?

In the "King of Comedy" Robert DeNiro kidnapped Jerry Lewis just to get on the late night show one time. Not sure I'd recommend that one for you though.

How much do you think a full page ad in USATODAY costs?

My days of running for office are over, so I won't need any advertising although I appreciate your suggestion WeAAsles.

Like you, I gave it my best and it wasn't enough on a national scale. That said, I'll support other candidates who will be running against the tools.

I actually would have voted for you since you seem very sincere and seem to be an independent thinker who doesn't kiss butt for votes. Unfortunately, that doesn't bode too well forelections.

Maybe someday I'll be as lucky as you and at least be able to live in a nice warm city that is an AA station. RSW would be nice.


regards,

 

[WeAAsles]

My days of running for office are over, so I won't need any advertising although I appreciate your suggestion WeAAsles.Like you, I gave it my best and it wasn't enough on a national scale. That said, I'll support other candidates who will be running against the tools.I actually would have voted for you since you seem very sincere and seem to be an independent thinker who doesn't kiss butt for votes. Unfortunately, that doesn't bode too well forelections.Maybe someday I'll be as lucky as you and at least be able to live in a nice warm city that is an AA station. RSW would be nice.regards,

Good luck in whatever your ambitions are Tim. Just keep our current negotiations and the future fattening of my wallet out of any of your plans, and you and I will be cool.

 

[Kev3188]

Maybe someday I'll be as lucky as you and at least be able to live in a nice warm city...RSW would be nice.

We should all be so lucky!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Good luck in whatever your ambitions are Tim. Just keep our current negotiations and the future fattening of my wallet out of any of your plans, and you and I will be cool.

I think there needs to be some resistance towards the union leadership to keep them aware, just like in Natgeo episodes, the lion on pride rock always needs to be aware. Makes them more fit and on their game.

As far as a T/A, I hope our negotiation team only presents a T/A that it recommends. In the past, we have presented some proposals to the membership for a vote that were not agreed to by the leadership. In this case, I believe any T/A that has the $29.50 will pass with flying colors, regardless of the other language. That's why I emailed Sito with my opinion, as I think any member should email him and share their opinion, and just encouraged him not to send out any proposal that isn't a T/A. Not that he would but nonetheless.

In America, we say, "Show me the money", and that's what Parker is doing. Like upstairs, even with scope sacrificed, people will stomp their feet and claim it is a bad contract, but they will almost certainly vote it in by a whopping margin. If so, then I'm at least hoping RSW is available.

regards,

 

[700UW]

Who mentioned anything about Delta?At any rate, I was just saying it's good that you weren't a part of any forgery. I have no problem getting elected at my own local, never lost actually. But national elections are tough, as you know. That said, even at the local level, I smoked all of the United AGC's here in ORD because of my credibility. Without one single United employee who works at ORD airport, and I still covered for my entire ticket, and plenty of it. It's called credibility dufus. If ORD thought I was a nitwit, it would be impossible for me to beat the 5 ORD United peeps who ran against me. Nonetheless, I smoked them all.regards,

You stated card forgery.

I worked defending a raid, no cards were needed.

Do you think people are stupid?

We all knew what you meant.

And how many gift cards did you bribe CO employees with?

 

[WeAAsles]

We should all be so lucky!

I certainly did get in with the right airline to live as far South in the US as possible.

My old bones are certainly thanking me for it.

Cmon and visit bro?

 

[Tim Nelson]

You stated card forgery.

I worked defending a raid, no cards were needed.

Do you think people are stupid?

We all knew what you meant.

And how many gift cards did you bribe CO employees with?

As far as gift cards, talk to Atkinson, he was the secretary treasurer and would have had to approve and reimburse any gift cards over a signature. Sorry, but I didn't have that authority.

And as far as your comments about me asking for AGC pay, I actually emailed Atkinson and Delaney telling them that my pay was below the IAM constitutional requirements for Director of Organizing and that they need only bring my salary up 1.7%, I think it was $73.000 after it would have become constitutional. Yes, as an employee, I should have joined a union like our other district employees, because being below constitutional requirements wasn't right. They addressed this disparity by having the eboard vote me a bonus due to my great work as well. So, I got a bonus check of I believe $1,700 or so. I got al emails and check receipts, if you are ever in ORD sometime, let me know and I'll let you see them. I think you know you are just spreading BS or agreeing to believe second hand reports, but if not, let me know and I'll be more than happy to show you the bonus check and the emails exchanged since all of my emails were under my private email account [just like Hillary Clinton, sorry]. Everything else you said is myth but it makes good fodder against me when I ran for office. BTW, I had a choice to be an AGC from 2008-2010 and opted not to be one, and told them not to consider me for the 2010 ballot. Money wasn't a problem for me, but I am a stickler for the law.

regards,

 

[AANOTOK]

Any fleet and/or contract update/rumors...if not, you two carry on.

 

[Worldport]

talking to FSC from EWR mentioned something about company changing swap policy? anybody hear anything

 

[Tim Nelson]

There to go again.

Only people that needed cards were the US members who signed IBT cards, keep spread the BS.

I worked the IBT raid for the IAM at US for the mechanic and related group

Didn't work DL and did the NMB or DOJ say the IAM forged cards?

Nope neither agency has released any investigation results.

And you wonder why you have zero credibility and can't get elected.

Ok, and so what!

 

[AANOTOK]

Right now at AA it is not contractual and we are allowed to CSO (take off) 50% of your hours in a six month period.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that at US, it was contractual and you could take off 25 days in a quarter.
I have heard that the company was looking to implement the US policy.

 

[Worldport]

Right now at AA it is not contractual and we are allowed to CSO (take off) 50% of your hours in a six month period.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that at US, it was contractual and you could take off 25 days in a quarter.
I have heard that the company was looking to implement the US policy.

No No there are new state laws, In this case New Jersey. If you work a swap and  anything above 40hrs the company has to pay you 1 1/2. Now the AA is saying you can't swap