Wheres the TWU Leadership?

[Rogallo]

Isn't the AA emp motto: I GOT MINE? that's all I ever heard since I hired on in 91....

Yup, and it started in TUL!!

 

[Buck]

NMB to bring American Airlines, unions together for an update
January 10, 2012SOURCE: By Terry Maxon/Reporter

The National Mediation Board wants to talk to American Airlines and its three unions – the Allied Pilots Association, Association of Professional Flight Attendants and Transport Workers Union – about the state of their negotiations.

We learn this from the APFA’s hotline update Tuesday, which said that “the NMB has requested that APA, APFA, TWU and the company meet for a negotiations status conference” on Thursday.

The TWU told its members Monday that it will meet with NMB board member Harry Hoglander and Larry Gibbons, the NMB’s director of mediation services, at American’s offices Thursday morning. They’ll discuss the status of talks with four of TWU’s units: fleet service clerks, stock clerks, technicians and mechanics and related employees.

On Wednesday afternoon, TWU and American Eagle officials will meet with Hoglander, Gibbons, senior mediator Patricia Sims and mediator John Livingood for a status update on two sets of talks with American Eagle employees represented by the TWU.

“The NMB asked to meet for an update on our status and, as always, we are happy to cooperate with the board,” American spokeswoman Missy Cousino said Tuesday.

Except for a few small TWU units, American and its unions have failed to work out new contracts in talks that began with pilots in September 2006, with the big TWU units in November 2007 and with the flight attendants in June 2008.

On Nov. 29, American, parent AMR, American Eagle and various subsidiaries filed bankruptcy papers. Now, the labor talks fall under Section 1113 of the federal bankruptcy code. However, that doesn’t mean the NMB won’t continue to assist in reaching agreements, if possible.

The TWU, Association of Professional Flight Attendants and APA have all gotten seats on the committee of unsecured creditors.

American hasn’t stated publicly what changes it will seek in labor talks, but made it pretty clear in pre-Chapter 11 talks what it wanted to do – reduce retirement costs (pensions and medical insurance); get more hours each month from pilots and flight attendants; have employees pay a greater share of medical costs; farm out less-skilled ground jobs like cabin cleaning; use commuter carriers for more flying; and other changes that it thought would make it more competitive with other major carriers that have already gone through bankruptcy proceedings.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

I read the update concerning the NMB. My question is whats the point?

 

[MCI transplant]

rotlmao, yes local 567 is still there. Special membership meetings tommorrow. Come on by and hear what the lawyers have to say.

<_< ------ Hold on to your tail feathers!!! And don't trust those Company, and ------- Union lawyers even less!!!------ Been there!!!

 

[Wretched Wrench]

And how will those things improve performance?

For the second year in a row, AA is at the bottom of the Wall Street Journals list of airlines for lost bags, delays, etc.

It will take more than cuts in pay and benefits for management to get it right.

 

[Buck]

I read the update concerning the NMB. My question is whats the point?

I believe that the NMB being involved with negotiations "up to a possible release" might need to be involved in the discussion when a major change to the existing contracts is going to happen.

Bob?

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

For the second year in a row, AA is at the bottom of the Wall Street Journals list of airlines for lost bags, delays, etc.

It will take more than cuts in pay and benefits for management to get it right.

It will also take more than sloganeering, "Being a good place for good people" doesn't address the utter failure in every operational area this past decade.

They seem to place more worth on tolerance, diversity and other happy horsecrap than actually transporting passengers, their baggage and freight from point A to point B at the published time.

AA is a bureaucracy on the order of the old Soviet Union.

 

[700UW]

The NMB does not have to be involved, they can assist in mediation, but there is nothing in Section 1113 requiring them to be involved in negotiations

 

[Frank Szabo]

I have been told and have every reason to believe it. Before the bankrupcty filing, the TWU leadership, most notably Pike had been actively having meetings and stating how the company was bluffing, etc. Since the bankruptcy filing, nothing, won't even show their face on the property. So, how about it? How anyone seen any members of the TWU leadership, Pike, or anyone else. And if not, why not??

Asking where the twu's "leadership" might be hiding is making the assumption there was any "leadership" to begin with. I see plenty of manipulation for the benefit of the international, but leadership?

Asking such a question should be grounds for a drug test.

 

[787nightmare]

Asking where the twu's "leadership" might be hiding is making the assumption there was any "leadership" to begin with. I see plenty of manipulation for the benefit of the international, but leadership?

Asking such a question should be grounds for a drug test.

Lol!! -D

 

[Buck]

The NMB does not have to be involved, they can assist in mediation, but there is nothing in Section 1113 requiring them to be involved in negotiations

As outsiders, ( I work for AA ), you and I most likley do not know exactly why they are there. It may not have anything to do with the bakruptcy. It may be that the company and the union are negotiating. That is why I asked a negotiator for some input into what level the pre-bankruptcy had taken the parties.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

As outsiders, ( I work for AA ), you and I most likley do not know exactly why they are there. It may not have anything to do with the bakruptcy. It may be that the company and the union are negotiating. That is why I asked a negotiator for some input into what level the pre-bankruptcy had taken the parties.

What did he tell you??

 

[Buck]

What did he tell you??

Ok, I asked Bob Owens his opinion in a post before this. Waiting for his response.

 

[High Speed Steel]

As outsiders, ( I work for AA ), you and I most likley do not know exactly why they are there. It may not have anything to do with the bakruptcy. It may be that the company and the union are negotiating. That is why I asked a negotiator for some input into what level the pre-bankruptcy had taken the parties.

It could be that the NMB is just wanting to offer their assistance, if applicable, to the parties. Or simply announce to the parties that they are going to put this one to bed and move on.....

 

[700UW]

As outsiders, ( I work for AA ), you and I most likley do not know exactly why they are there. It may not have anything to do with the bakruptcy. It may be that the company and the union are negotiating. That is why I asked a negotiator for some input into what level the pre-bankruptcy had taken the parties.

They are going to use Section 1113 now they have filed, its AA's trump card.