VOTE YES !

Subject: From a pilot

Dear Captain Hale,

I read your August 3rd hotline with great interest, and I want to thank you for bringing clarity to an otherwise difficult decision.

Like virtually every American Airlines pilot, I have been struggling with the choice before us regarding the recently negotiated Tentative Agreement. I have tried to sincerely listen to all the different viewpoints regarding our options to move this airline forward. While not every pilot will share this view, I will freely concede that changes to our labor agreement are necessary in order for American Airlines to successfully restructure as a financially healthy organization. Thus, from a strictly rational and pragmatic view, the choice to ratify the current Tentative Agreement and move forward with the restructuring process is compelling.
That being said, as I review the many changes included in the Tentative Agreement, the breadth and depth of the concessions are troubling. In almost every major area pay, Scope, duration, work rules, benefits I see the manifestation of management demands which go far beyond what is necessary for a successful reorganization. Furthermore, despite having a Tentative Agreement in place, our negotiators report that management representatives are still attempting to insert even more concessions into the contract language. When asked why management continues to overreach seemingly without compunction, we are told basically, "Because they can."

Even as our union leadership promotes the TAs ratification, they do not argue that this agreement is fair or even necessary. Rather, they say that we must ratify because the alternative is worse. They tell us that we have a gun to our collective heads. They say that if we do not consensually give what is currently asked, the company will simply take more by force of judicial writ.

In your hotline, you have said substantially the same thing:
"So there is no confusion, if the contract is abrogated, the company will immediately begin implementation of the April Term Sheet."
"A no vote can lead to only one thing uncertainty and more pain."
For whatever reason, these assertions finally brought all the competing issues into clear focus.

At this point, a useful rhetorical question would be: If the tentative agreement truly represents terms that senior management openly acknowledges as sufficient to successfully restructure American Airlines, why in the world would they implement something substantially worse? When given the power to impose whatever terms they deem necessary and proper, why would they intentionally inflict more uncertainty and pain upon the very frontline employees who make this operation run every day?

I think we all know the answer: "Because they can."
In both word and deed, the senior management of American Airlines has clearly demonstrated that they are not interested in taking only what they need to reorganize. Rather, they are attempting to take whatever they can, however they can, without regard to the horrific impact that their actions will have AAs employees or the operation of this airline.
Sadly, our world is filled with authority figures and despotic regimes that routinely misuse the power granted to them. They create pain and uncertainty not because it is necessary, but rather to satisfy their personal need for power, wealth, or validation.

We have words for these kinds of people: Bullies. Abusers. Tyrants.
Oddly, these oppressors also share an almost pathological need to have their victims acknowledge in some way that this mistreatment is actual necessary or even deserved. Youve seen their stories in the news: the rape victim in Pakistan who is jailed on charges of adultery; the political dissident in China imprisoned for "anti-social" behavior; the U.S. citizen incarcerated in Thailand for making online comments deemed insulting to the King. As these individuals reside in their own personal hells, they are plied and cajoled with offers of less harsh treatment and even parole if only they confess their sins and legitimize their "punishment."

We have words for this kind of behavior: Immoral. Repugnant. Evil.

On one important point, we are in full agreement. If the Tentative Agreement is rejected, the pilots will be punished. In fact, I fully expect that management will not be content to merely implement the April term sheet. I predict that, in the absence of any contractual restraint, we will witness one of the largest "land grabs" in airline labor history. And just why will management do this?

Because they can.

In the ensuing charged atmosphere, individuals are going to overreact, hostages will be taken, and lives will be ruined. It is not even inconceivable that American will become the next Eastern, and a once great airline will be sacrificed on the altar of management greed and arrogance.

If these tragic events come to pass, it will NOT be because it was necessary; it will NOT be because the pilots chose this outcome; it will NOT be because the employees somehow deserved this treatment. It will comes to pass because, when given the choice between 1) doing what was best for the company and its employees, or 2) what doing would bring them more power and wealth, senior management chose the latter. If this is the path that management chooses, then they are not deserving of the loyalty, respect or best efforts of the employees of American Airlines.

I will not support the Tentative Agreement in its current form. I will not grant legitimacy to what is little more than legalized extortion and theft. I will not ratify behavior that is as repugnant as it is unnecessary. I have made my choice, and I will sleep the better for it. If management chooses to compound evil with more evil, then that is THEIR choice, not ours.

Respectfully,

Captain Andy Sizemore, S-80 ORD Former member APA Negotiating, Scope, TASC, and Communications Committees
 
A fence riding YES voter decided to change his vote last night now he is a NO vote by the way he is a 15 year man
 
I have two friends I was eating breakfast with Monday morning. They both have been retired for 25 and 27 years, they walked the picket lines for what we have today. One has a son working at AFW, and they both said the same thing. If they could vote, because we are in bankruptcy, they would both vote YES. His son is planning on voting no but he told him he was making a mistake. That is comming from those that walked the walk.
Hey pal, this is not the same free wheeling AA your geriatric breakfast buddies experienced back in the day. I wonder how willing they would be to vote yes if they were voting away their health care. I would suggest to man up and grow a set and 'VOTE NO' and go have a beer with the son.
 
I have two friends I was eating breakfast with Monday morning. They both have been retired for 25 and 27 years, they walked the picket lines for what we have today. One has a son working at AFW, and they both said the same thing. If they could vote, because we are in bankruptcy, they would both vote YES. His son is planning on voting no but he told him he was making a mistake. That is comming from those that walked the walk.
By voting "YES" you are going to give away what they walked the line for! His son is doing the right thing by VOTING NO!!!!
 
Blueweng48, I to have walked a picket line. I honored that line for over 18 months. I was on that Picket Line one day longer than the scabs that took our jobs. We were fortunate to have watched them roll their tool boxes past our solid line. I hold in high honor your breakfast buddies that sacrificed while honoring the picket line. But they have been retired for 27 years. They have their pensions, their social security, their pass priviledges and their medical. Just because they honored a picket line over 27 years ago does not make their "Yes" vote a more wise decision if they were allowed to vote than my "NO" vote. The difference is they have nothing to lose. They earned what they are enjoying today and I am proud for them. To use them to try to solicite "yes" votes is sad. I standby my "NO" vote and have no regrets. As with everyone else I await the outcome. No matter how you voted at least you voted. To the members that chose not to vote, Shame On You!!
 
I feel WONDERFUL about that!!!!!
Do you feel good about selling out your union brothers and sisters. Are you going to feed them and clothe them. I think not you will only worry about yourself.

So we are clear I am in the group you say could be lost if we vote NO! I stand ready to move on if it comes to that but I will not vote to give these Bas... {Gentlemen} or pension and retiree medical a six year deal that destroys our profession and leaves us at the bottom of the industry all the while they fill their pockets with millions for screwing us. You may not understand this, but I have to be able to look that man in the mirrow in the eye and tell him I did what was right. Because behind him stands the men that raised me and they made it clear that I was to ALWAYS to stand for what was fair and right I was not allowed to shrink in the face of fear or run when the odds where not in my favor. Make a stand VOTE NO!!
 
Blueweng48, I to have walked a picket line. I honored that line for over 18 months. I was on that Picket Line one day longer than the scabs that took our jobs. We were fortunate to have watched them roll their tool boxes past our solid line. I hold in high honor your breakfast buddies that sacrificed while honoring the picket line. But they have been retired for 27 years. They have their pensions, their social security, their pass priviledges and their medical. Just because they honored a picket line over 27 years ago does not make their "Yes" vote a more wise decision if they were allowed to vote than my "NO" vote. The difference is they have nothing to lose. They earned what they are enjoying today and I am proud for them. To use them to try to solicite "yes" votes is sad. I standby my "NO" vote and have no regrets. As with everyone else I await the outcome. No matter how you voted at least you voted. To the members that chose not to vote, Shame On You!!
Maybe we could add a provision that if you don't vote you are on the lay off list regardless of seniority.
 
Maybe we could add a provision that if you don't vote you are on the lay off list regardless of seniority.

I have no problem with that!

I would like to thank Capt Andy Sizemore for his post it hits the bullseye and he is a superior wordsmith to me but i cannot agree more with what he shared.I am a line AMT at DFW I would like to shake your hand if you read this send me a PM I will meet the aircraft at the gate.
 
So....

You favor 35% Outsource along with "Peak Demand" (whatever that means) outsource and NO JOB SECURITY, while thousands of jobs will be cut with a yes vote, and you say a no vote is selling out?

ROFLMAO
And voting no means AA gets to outsource 40% of maintenance spend on top of existing work outsourced. That could be over 50% with no outsourcing cap on line maintenance. The term sheet list outsourcing BC's in line stations. Read it.
 
And voting no means AA gets to outsource 40% of maintenance spend on top of existing work outsourced. That could be over 50% with no outsourcing cap on line maintenance. The term sheet list outsourcing BC's in line stations. Read it.

You don't get, if they impose that term sheet they are going to need to outsource more than that if they want to keep flying.
 

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