Vote No Video from Presidents

[Hopeful]

CIO, lives in a low cost of living area, he has 2 (two) licensed AMT incomes coming into the household in addition to 1 (one) local union officer paycheck, Between the two of them they produce less for AA than an employee on workmans comp disability. That's right, in excess of $120,000.00 per year and very little in return from the production side for AA.

Combine with the fact that he has relatives on the property that he worries more about than any of you out there.

Not to attack the guy, but he has no clue what it is like to not to have more than enough income to pay the bills. In fact, he would be considered RICH compared to any LINE AMT in a high cost of living area.

His party's will soon be over when the TWU is ousted.

 

[Shafted]

Bob Owens

Why do you think mgmt would say to you that the offer in front of us is rediculiously bad? Why would they even admit that? Do they have an angle? I dont get it!

 

[Hopeful]

Bob Owens

Why do you think mgmt would say to you that the offer in front of us is rediculiously bad? Why would they even admit that? Do they have an angle? I dont get it!

I know you directed this question at Bob Owens....But maybe the company thinks it is so bad, that if contract is abrogated, they get their original ASK......what they really want.
They satisified their negotiating in good faith condition...And grant you, a bad contract doesn't have to be good to be considered good faith.

 

[Frank Szabo]

Whos track record goes on record that really stinks?
Bob Owens or the TWU?

Bob's 100% for line maintenance. The twu is for themselves. Overhaul is, therefore, vilified because of its numbers. Only when little jimmy is trying to sell something that benefits the international does he show his face - what was the party last weekend other than that?

Without overhaul, his fifedom is toast and he knows it.

 

[Hopeful]

Bob's 100% for line maintenance. The twu is for themselves. Overhaul is, therefore, vilified because of its numbers. Only when little jimmy is trying to sell something that benefits the international does he show his face - what was the party last weekend other than that?

Without overhaul, his fifedom is toast and he knows it.

So true....But I have a feeling that there are those in OH will gladly send the TWU packing so we can all start with a clean slate.

 

[FWAAA]

I watched both parts. Very well presented and good info. Short on exaggeration and hyperbole and long on facts and persuasive argument. And unlike "Angry Mechanic," all four kept their tempers in check. Effective use of technology by adults to make their case.

 

[bigbear52]

I watched both parts. Very well presented and good info. Short on exaggeration and hyperbole and long on facts and persuasive argument. And unlike "Angry Mechanic," all four kept their tempers in check. Effective use of technology by adults to make their case.

I agree

 

[Overspeed]

I watched both parts. Very well presented and good info. Short on exaggeration and hyperbole and long on facts and persuasive argument. And unlike "Angry Mechanic," all four kept their tempers in check. Effective use of technology by adults to make their case.

While they may have made points about the LBO being bad, they are very short on alternatives. Petersen stated in the video that he did not know if he could get a better deal. Do you really trust these guys to hammer out a deal in a few days before abrogation and prevent 4,300 from being RIF'd?

 

[TWU informer]

While they may have made points about the LBO being bad, they are very short on alternatives. Petersen stated in the video that he did not know if he could get a better deal. Do you really trust these guys to hammer out a deal in a few days before abrogation and prevent 4,300 from being RIF'd?

Regardless of the outcome, I trust them more than I trust James C Little or any Local Officer in TWU Local 514. When did it become the Union's job to give away one members pay/benefits to save another member's job? Concessions for job has not worked in 1995, 2003, and will not work now either. Why do you insist on taking the same action over and over, while expecting a different result?

How do you save jobs, when the LBO allows for a 35% increase in outsourced work, specifies the loss of 777,767,757 work, and then tops that with the "allow outsource of peak demand work"?

Meanwhile back at the Ranch, James C Little signs a term sheet with USairways that only assures the Tulsa Base and 4500 AMT's a two survival.

Are you stupid, or did I get some of that wrong?

 

[amtide]

Thanks Presidents for your effort in this campaing of orientation and for unmasking the international. the International and Mr. Little certainly does not represent the AMT's best interests, they do not know what we want.

What about some fliers with the same info in the videos to get to the AMT's that do not look at videos and will rather read. This will also help to spread the message.

 

[dc10boy]

Bob's 100% for line maintenance. The twu is for themselves. Overhaul is, therefore, vilified because of its numbers. Only when little jimmy is trying to sell something that benefits the international does he show his face - what was the party last weekend other than that?

Without overhaul, his fifedom is toast and he knows it.

I think BOb is for Maintenance, ALL maintenance and so am I.WE are 1 seniority list 1 workgroup. as overhaul goes, line goes.This line vs. overhaul bickering is flat out STUPID.If the Company can split us they win.We stick together we win.Last time I checked we were still union brothers....Let's act like it!

 

[amtide]

Bob's 100% for line maintenance. The twu is for themselves. Overhaul is, therefore, vilified because of its numbers. Only when little jimmy is trying to sell something that benefits the international does he show his face - what was the party last weekend other than that?

Without overhaul, his fifedom is toast and he knows it.

Bob represent the line, there is no secret about that, and we are proud of the job his doing for us. Where is OH representant? We should be together trying to stop this sell out.

 

[Frank Szabo]

I think BOb is for Maintenance, ALL maintenance and so am I.WE are 1 seniority list 1 workgroup. as overhaul goes, line goes.This line vs. overhaul bickering is flat out STUPID.If the Company can split us they win.We stick together we win.Last time I checked we were still union brothers....Let's act like it!

What you're advocating (sticking together) is analogous to herding cats. I'm all for it but I'm rather tired of the prodding to act against the interests of the majority by this parasitic group some refer to as a union.

 

[dc10boy]

What you're advocating (sticking together) is analogous to herding cats. I'm all for it but I'm rather tired of the prodding to act against the interests of the majority by this parasitic group some refer to as a union.

True.I hoped our situation would breed unity finally.But it has not.
Silver lining here? we all now clearly see a need for change in representation. Who will it be? I hope we can at least find a way to unite on that.

 

[Frank Szabo]

True.I hoped our situation would breed unity finally.But it has not.
Silver lining here? we all now clearly see a need for change in representation. Who will it be? I hope we can at least find a way to unite on that.

Unity, to ANY degree, will never happen as long as we support a "union" which is a de facto subsidiary of AMR. There is far too much at stake for the twu's elite to allow unity.