US Pilots labor thread 4/17-

[HP2USFA]

 

[Phoenix]

Usually grinding of teeth is a trait demonstrated by folks in a position to lose quite a bit. That doesn't really describe the West camp cause even a loss in the 9th doesn't mean DOH comes a knockin. Whereas a win in the 9th all but invites Nic in. There's no guarantee of an appeal to the SCOTUS after all and many of the verdant supporters have already stated they'd consider this finished after the 9th ruling.

Poms poms are neat but probably of little effect.

 

[Phoenix]

One of the America West Pilot leaders has a video, accusing USAPA of offering a 25,000 dollar bribe for him to leave. After watching the video, I think USAPA should offer him 25,000 to stay.

If someone is offered a bribe, you should mention the parties name. Great video.

America West Pilot leader

Goat Shoap!? Why did you waste my time!

 

[HPDriver]

BOTH of USAPA's requests to stay the injunction have been DENIED.

How's that Seham working out for you guys?

 

[hp_fa]

Based on the previous post can I surmise that the 9th did in fact deny the Emergency Motion?

 

[HPDriver]

Based on the previous post can I surmise that the 9th did in fact deny the Emergency Motion?

Denied both the emergency motion as well as the original one.

 

[GuntherA320]

Denied both the emergency motion as well as the original one.

Does this mean we'll have a contract soon?

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Denied both the emergency motion as well as the original one.

Can you throw us non-pilot lurkers a bone and direct us to the info?

Thanks

 

[aquagreen73s]

Based on the previous post can I surmise that the 9th did in fact deny the Emergency Motion?

"Defendant-appellant’s original motion to stay judgment, which is still
pending, is denied.

Defendant-appellant’s renewed emergency motion to stay judgment is also
denied without prejudice to its being renewed after it has been presented to the
district court."

The above is the entire text. Short and sweet.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what this means about their case.

Better get used to the Nic and a payraise or LOA 93 forever. Choice is yours.

Edit: as I digest what this means, the original motion to stay was filed last August 28th and the 9th has since sat on it. No denail, no granting, nothing. Then USAPA files their stupid emergency motion and what the court is saying above is that they need to go to the district court first for that. That's why it's denied without prejudice. But that's not the important harbinger. It's the denial of the original motion filed last August 28th that is very ominous for USAPA. If the court was going to rule for USAPA, then it doesn't take a rocket sccientist to figure out that they wouldn't be denying USAPA's original motion to stay the district court's injunction.

 

[Metroyet]

HUH?????

It's called a delusion. It's where one invents a different reality for themselves when they find actual reality unpalatable. Just like USAPA will claim the 9th denying the stay...TWICE a victory because they knew this would happen all along.

 

[exB717Flyer]

USAPA Legal Update


Today, Friday, April 23rd, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled to deny the motion to stay the District Court injunction as well as the emergency motion recently filed by USAPA. The Circuit Court also ordered that their denial of the emergency request was without prejudice, meaning that USAPA is free to bring its motion back to the District Court at anytime going forward. This ruling was not entirely unexpected given the context, since it follows the public announcement that the merger discussions between United and US Airways have been terminated, which was the basis for the emergency motion.

In its motion, USAPA was reacting to public announcements, and as a merger remains a possibility USAPA is prepared to renew its request as needed going forward. The ruling has no impact on the pending merits of the appeal. As we previously communicated to the pilots, the District Court in February stayed all lower court proceedings pending a decision by the Ninth Circuit, leaving only the injunction. Also, as it has been almost 5 months since USAPA’s oral argument, a full decision is expected from the Ninth Circuit sooner than later.

A copy of the Ninth Circuit’s ruling will be posted shortly to the Legal Library on the USAPA web site.

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Ya gotta love the spin. Like the judges were somehow influenced by the merger rumors.

 

[nic4us]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what this means about their case.

Edit: as I digest what this means, the original motion to stay was filed last August 28th and the 9th has since sat on it. No denail, no granting, nothing. Then USAPA files their stupid emergency motion and what the court is saying above is that they need to go to the district court first for that. That's why it's denied without prejudice. But that's not the important harbinger. It's the denial of the original motion filed last August 28th that is very ominous for USAPA. If the court was going to rule for USAPA, then it doesn't take a rocket sccientist to figure out that they wouldn't be denying USAPA's original motion to stay the district court's injunction.

USAPA Legal Update
Today, Friday, April 23rd, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled to deny the motion to stay the District Court injunction as well as the emergency motion recently filed by USAPA. The Circuit Court also ordered that their denial of the emergency request was without prejudice, meaning that USAPA is free to bring its motion back to the District Court at anytime going forward. This ruling was not entirely unexpected given the context, since it follows the public announcement that the merger discussions between United and US Airways have been terminated, which was the basis for the emergency motion.
In its motion, USAPA was reacting to public announcements, and as a merger remains a possibility USAPA is prepared to renew its request as needed going forward. The ruling has no impact on the pending merits of the appeal. As we previously communicated to the pilots, the District Court in February stayed all lower court proceedings pending a decision by the Ninth Circuit, leaving only the injunction. Also, as it has been almost 5 months since USAPA’s oral argument, a full decision is expected from the Ninth Circuit sooner than later. A copy of the Ninth Circuit’s ruling will be posted shortly to the Legal Library on the USAPA web site.

"The ruling was not entirely unexpected"...?...then why file..?...I think usapa is trying to gloss over the fact that the original stay was denied. Sorry usapa, their is a verdict against you, an injunction in place that is not going away, and a damages trial in your future.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Ok, some one from the east has gotta do it. A little deflection is needed. How bout another link to a DS video, no wait, how bout a phoenix road show video, or even the best link of them all, the original RICO complaint.

 

[nic4us]

Another thought. usapa has been careful to say its official position is the Nic, but have they retracted their DOH list previously passed to the company ? Have they closed section 22 in negotiations ?

Well if they have not, it is time for them to do so. If they do not, their intent is unmistakenly apparent, and will come back to bite them.

 

[Freebird]

Another thought. usapa has been careful to say its official position is the Nic, but have they retracted their DOH list previously passed to the company ? Have they closed section 22 in negotiations ?

Well if they have not, it is time for them to do so. If they do not, their intent is unmistakenly apparent, and will come back to bite them.

Dont worry guys, Usapa will get'em next time....meanwhile, you just made Seham richer. Enjoy your LOA 93 ladies !!!

USAPA - Failing its member's daily for over 2 years!!!