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As you may have seen, AMR Chairman Tom Horton has publicly stated that he would consider a merger after American Airlines exits bankruptcy. There is a logical explanation for his position. If history is any guide, management would own a large share of the company upon exit from bankruptcy. By way of example, Glen Tilton and his management group emerged from bankruptcy with a 15 percent ownership of United Airlines. We can therefore expect that AMR management would reward themselves handsomely when the company has completed restructuring. There is an enormous financial incentive for senior management to resist merging while in bankruptcy, as their control over the corporation would be jeopardized by an agreement with US Airways, threatening their ability to “cash in” following American Airlines’ emergence from Chapter 11. Clearly we can expect significant opposition to what your APA leadership believes to be the best course of action for our collective futures.


APA DOES NOT WANT HORTON TO"CASH IN" , Playing mngmnt to be replaced by DUI, thus putting USAIRWAYS in COC position, a deal APA told parker they want! Heck I hope it happens!, "REAL MONEY" will throw out the first pitch! FOLLOW THE "REAL MONEY"!
 
Compass Correction Coalition, Keeping Our Union Honest. ?

(Not really, but if we say it enough you will buy it.)

Keeping our Union Honest:

The self proclaimed mantra of the Compass Correction Coalition. Sound good? But really, who are these guys? A self appointed committee to claim dominium over the truth of all things USAPA? Sounds a little self serving doesn’t it? Of course it does because it is self serving and arrogant.

So what is really the truth with the CCC crowd? Well that’s a not so well guarded secret packaged in a pretty box with a bow. No matter what you think you’re buying into with the CCC, what you get is unbridled self interest for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many. Wanna see how? Keep reading.

Let’s look at the April 27th Compass Correction post, “Making Ourselves Irrelevant”, of Elwood “Woody” Menear and Rich Wargin, self proclaimed Truth Sayers’ that they are. In this post they opine in the very first paragraph that our duly elected and Compass Correction supported USAPA president Gary Hummel

“ran on the idea that only one of the 29 Sections of our contract is internally contentious”.

Really, because I gotta tell you, there are 6 letters posted by USAPA President Gary Hummel in the approved Allied Union Services venue during his campaign and not once did Captain Hummel proffer the above mentioned idea as a campaign promise, insight, commitment or plank. Does it look like Woody and Rich are representing a falsehood as a truth? Of course they are, but they believe you will buy into the idea without hesitation. Why? Keep reading.

A little further review of the matter and it becomes a bit clearer. As a good stand up guy, Captain Wayne Mann penned an endorsement for Gary Hummel and posted that endorsement on February 13, 2012 through the Allied Union Services venue. Nothing wrong there; A stand up guy supporting his candidate.

Here is an excerpt from that post:

“During the Second World War, the communications officer for the Nazi party utilized the communication tactic that came to be known as the Big Lie Theory. Simply put it relied on the state controlled communication process to disseminate information that the bigger the lie, the easier it would be to convince the masses that it is the truth.”

An excellent reference to a historical propaganda premise that applies to the communications disseminated by the boys at the Compass Correction Coalition. Yep, ole Woody and Rich are trying to pull another fast one.

You see, what Woody and Rich are actually doing is trying to convince you that a sentiment that has been a longstanding position of Eric Ferguson and the AOL group is actually a new idea brought forth in Gary Hummel’s campaign. Now the question becomes why would these two self appointed Sayers of Truth employ the Big Lie Theory and make a connection with Eric Ferguson and Leonidas, (the boys trying to leap frog seniority), and Gary Hummel?

I wonder if they have a hidden agenda? An ulterior motive? Does self interest play a role? Well I am going to go with NIC for Pay as the number one answer to those questions. Who cares if a bunch a guys gets thrown under the seniority bus? Woody and Rich need a new pair of shoes. Self interest, it’s not hard to spot.

Remember, a little woody.!



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I don't know Bob. This thing is on a pretty fast track and by the time the curtain gets pulled back on the "Wizard" it will be a done deal. If he really needed the East and West to do this deal, he wouldn't have given us the "mushroom" treatment like he has so far.

Furthermore, I don't think the money folks give a rats ass about pilots in misery, as long as they have an injunction, the metal gets moved and lots of labor cost gets saved. Not much to hate, if you are a money man on Wall Street!

We shall see.


seajay
I'm not going to place any bets either way but I hope they don't get it done until next year.
 
Since you C&BLs mandate DOH you're going to try and submit something non-Nic.

Since Parker is also at the table and, seeing this submission as unacceptable do to the potential litigation it may bring, Parker will step in and not allow it.

This will then go to arbitration.

The joint solution is the Nic.
The nic will be settled one way or another. Don't lose sight or Parkers's hands while we are all distracted by the Nic. Nic or doh might be small issues if we don't keep our eyes on the Tempe Tabernacle Team.
 
Doug doesn't have the financial or backing of APA to "STRUCTURE " a deal for the COC if you read the agreement carefully, the APA put in it that AMR MNGMNT was not eligble for any COC kickback in their contract, in fact he has already approached USAPA about giving it up! I see a T/A (10% chance it happens) 7 years of litigation, stagnent WEST(if not sold off first) , raises, COC litigation and no combined airline for at LEAST 10 years! All 3 JUST AS SEAJAY PREDICTS! But I do see massive overlap layoffs as DUI moves to DFW!

This is what I'm hearing when I read the above post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M58rLQ13H0

Please translate.

Bean
 
The nic will be settled one way or another. Don't lose sight or Parkers's hands while we are all distracted by the Nic. Nic or doh might be small issues if we don't keep our eyes on the Tempe Tabernacle Team.


I bet you miss Crystal palace ...Team tempe just sounds so much better doesnt it? Amazing to go back through the years and hear, see and smell the same ole arguments..Unions agaisnt management! Sad sad sad...Maybe one day someone will get a clue on how to work together instead of thinking up of stupid names for HQ! Its soooo yesterday!
 
I bet you miss Crystal palace ...Team tempe just sounds so much better doesnt it? Amazing to go back through the years and hear, see and smell the same ole arguments..Unions agaisnt management! Sad sad sad...Maybe one day someone will get a clue on how to work together instead of thinking up of stupid names for HQ! Its soooo yesterday!
So this is where you and BEAN, ex STUDIO 54 employees went to work sure explains alot!
 
US Airways' Fun Facts & Q&A: May 3, 2012

Focus on Fuel: APU Burn

As we continue to focus on fuel conservation, a new statistic will be added to US Daily starting Friday to keep employees aware of auxiliary power unit (APU) fuel burn.

The APU usage report is published daily and reports narrowbody Airbus APU run time during aircraft gate turn for the preceding day’s operation. The stat is measured from IN time (gate arrival) to OUT time (gate pushback) and is reported for CLT, DCA, PHL, PHX and the system. Our goal for the hubs and DCA is APU usage of 45 percent or less on the turn.

So what can employees do to impact APU usage? For those working on the ground and in the flight deck, following established procedures for hooking up ground power is the best course of action. This starts with clear communication and coordination between all involved in the gate arrival process so APU shutdown can occur in a timely manner.

APU fun fact: For every one percentage point decrease towards the system goal, the company saves $584,000 annually in fuel.

Q. When can we expect the new crew room in CLT?

A. We are still awaiting a few financial approvals for a new crew room in CLT and therefore we are in the very beginning stages. Barring any unforeseen issues with our financial approvals or major structural issues, we expect the crew room to be available later this year.
 
Compass Correction Coalition, Keeping Our Union Honest. ?

(Not really, but if we say it enough you will buy it.)

Keeping our Union Honest:

The self proclaimed mantra of the Compass Correction Coalition. Sound good? But really, who are these guys? A self appointed committee to claim dominium over the truth of all things USAPA? Sounds a little self serving doesn’t it? Of course it does because it is self serving and arrogant.

So what is really the truth with the CCC crowd? Well that’s a not so well guarded secret packaged in a pretty box with a bow. No matter what you think you’re buying into with the CCC, what you get is unbridled self interest for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many. Wanna see how? Keep reading.

Let’s look at the April 27th Compass Correction post, “Making Ourselves Irrelevant”, of Elwood “Woody” Menear and Rich Wargin, self proclaimed Truth Sayers’ that they are. In this post they opine in the very first paragraph that our duly elected and Compass Correction supported USAPA president Gary Hummel

“ran on the idea that only one of the 29 Sections of our contract is internally contentious”.

Really, because I gotta tell you, there are 6 letters posted by USAPA President Gary Hummel in the approved Allied Union Services venue during his campaign and not once did Captain Hummel proffer the above mentioned idea as a campaign promise, insight, commitment or plank. Does it look like Woody and Rich are representing a falsehood as a truth? Of course they are, but they believe you will buy into the idea without hesitation. Why? Keep reading.

A little further review of the matter and it becomes a bit clearer. As a good stand up guy, Captain Wayne Mann penned an endorsement for Gary Hummel and posted that endorsement on February 13, 2012 through the Allied Union Services venue. Nothing wrong there; A stand up guy supporting his candidate.

Here is an excerpt from that post:

“During the Second World War, the communications officer for the Nazi party utilized the communication tactic that came to be known as the Big Lie Theory. Simply put it relied on the state controlled communication process to disseminate information that the bigger the lie, the easier it would be to convince the masses that it is the truth.”

An excellent reference to a historical propaganda premise that applies to the communications disseminated by the boys at the Compass Correction Coalition. Yep, ole Woody and Rich are trying to pull another fast one.

You see, what Woody and Rich are actually doing is trying to convince you that a sentiment that has been a longstanding position of Eric Ferguson and the AOL group is actually a new idea brought forth in Gary Hummel’s campaign. Now the question becomes why would these two self appointed Sayers of Truth employ the Big Lie Theory and make a connection with Eric Ferguson and Leonidas, (the boys trying to leap frog seniority), and Gary Hummel?

I wonder if they have a hidden agenda? An ulterior motive? Does self interest play a role? Well I am going to go with NIC for Pay as the number one answer to those questions. Who cares if a bunch a guys gets thrown under the seniority bus? Woody and Rich need a new pair of shoes. Self interest, it’s not hard to spot.

Remember, a little woody.!



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At least Woody, Eric, and Dave sign their work.

Who is this missive attributed to? Bill Glynn?

And talk about the "Big Lie" communication tactic. A benchmark of USAPA...
 
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