US Pilots Labor Discussion 3/1- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES

[OTTER574]

I didn't know they taped federal court proceedings. But that's neither here nor there, since the court reporter would have taken down every word in the official transcript.

Don't know much about Seham's sleep habits. I doubt he did anything at the trial that would keep him awake, though.

How many times did the judge call him out of order, or in contempt? Have criminal charges been filed over this "perjury?"

Didn't think so.

Imagination running away?

No imagination my friend.

A tape by east alpa mec slappan jack made prior to trial and an under oath transcript by slappan jack during the trial.

If I brought this information to Judge Wake, would he understand it more than you?

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Which one was on the grassy knoll, Stephan or Seham? Maybe both? Maybe it was the CIA?

 

[Hate2fly]

Hate,

9th about to rule against USAPA

MDA lawsuit is dead

No chance for snapbacks.

Some very difficult decisions for the easties going forward.

Driver,

The 9th is about to spank the westies..........you still have a ripeness problem.

MDA............watch what ALPA does?

How many times do we have to tell you? It is called pay restoration! USAPA put on a very solid case.

How much money do you owe your lawyers?

Hate

 

[OTTER574]

Which one was on the grassy knoll, Stephan or Seham? Maybe both? Maybe it was the CIA?

No offense but east usapa aka east alpa screwed themselves.

 

[OTTER574]

Which one was on the grassy knoll, Stephan or Seham? Maybe both? Maybe it was the CIA?

Hypothetical Question to you?

Damages trial, should we allow Jack Stephan's testimony or NOT?

 

[BoeingBoy]

The 9th is about to spank the westies..........you still have a ripeness problem.

While ripeness is presumably an issue, it was USAPA's attorney who couldn't explain why ripeness could not occur before a contract was ratified.

MDA............watch what ALPA does?

Probably one of two things - settle with no admission of wrongdoing or outlast the MDA pilots.

How many times do we have to tell you? It is called pay restoration! USAPA put on a very solid case.

Mainly composed of several different ways of saying "But we gave up all these thinks so we deserve...."

Someone is going to be almost clinically depressed if those dominoes tip opposite the way expected...

Jim

 

[EastUS]

Someone is going to be almost clinically depressed if those dominoes tip opposite the way expected...

No argument there

 

[HPDriver]

Driver,

The 9th is about to spank the westies..........you still have a ripeness problem.

MDA............watch what ALPA does?

How many times do we have to tell you? It is called pay restoration! USAPA put on a very solid case.

How much money do you owe your lawyers?

Hate

The 9th is about to spank the easties.......ripeness is not an issue. USAPA's request for an injunction was never granted.

Watch what ALPA does?!?!? ALPA asks the judge for a decision and puts MDA to bed for good.

Restoration? Call it what you want. USAPA's case was weak and emails/blasts from reps proves that snapbacks were never put in place.

Lawyers are paid in full with more money coming in. USAPA will be paying us back with damages award.

HPDriver

 

[nic4us]

Driver,

The 9th is about to spank the westies..........you still have a ripeness problem.

MDA............watch what ALPA does?

How many times do we have to tell you? It is called pay restoration! USAPA put on a very solid case.

How much money do you owe your lawyers?

Hate

Spank the Westies? ...you mean like an NFL spank? Some kind of appellate high five? Hmmmm. ripeness, deterimined by a Federal judge to be there and hold an entire trial. yeah, your right, ripeness problem.

MDA....has what to do with usapa?, and/or the Nic, the official seniority list of LCC and fully accepted as the bargaining position of usapa!

Pay restoration? I am sure usapa's case was solid, hope you get it, not holding my breath, because when I read the LOA I cannot see a reason you will.

Does not matter how much money we owe our lawyers, you are going to foot the bill, maybe with your "pay restoration", but more likely with your ill gotten gains.

Next up, damages trial. When do you folks get that second 35 mil? Might ease the assessment pain.

 

[veritasaequitas]

Let’s look at the facts as they are today and go from there. Today the federal charges are dismissed with prejudice. That means that the court did not believe any of what USAPA had to say. Therefore when people continue to falsely accuse these guys of things, they are wrong and have reasonable knowledge that they are making false statements. A federal appeal does not change the fact that these guys are not guilty of anything.

As to the state charges. No charges have been filed. So continuing to make unsubstantiated charges with no evidence or charges pending is also wrong and libelous. Because people also have a reasonable knowledge that the charges have not been filed. What you just quoted proves that you know there are no charges in state court. At this point you need to stop saying false things.

Damaging someone’s reputation is a crime, I suggest that everyone stop with the RICO stuff. This board could become evidence in a counter suit as to damaged reputations and public ridicule. Putting some of these statement in front of a judge especially after the poster has reasonable knowledge of the facts will get expensive.

Big bucks boys. Just because USAPA said it does not make it true.

It is amazing that the West pilots claims of cowardice and integrity disadvantage of the East on a daily basis on this forum, you post one public record that is not an opinion but facts and this soils their reputation.

Part of the public record, click here.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

It is amazing that the West pilots claims of cowardice and integrity disadvantage of the East on a daily basis on this forum, you post one public record that is not an opinion but facts and this soils their reputation.

Part of the public record, click here.

This is like deja vu all over again. There used to be some other guy, I can't remember the handle, but I bet you do, who used to post the link to the complaint regularily.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on which side of the facts one is on), that fact says that even USAPA hasn't charged a single West pilot by name of doing the things some charge west pilots as guilty of. And that's ignoring the fact that a complaint filed with the court isn't proof that anyone performed the acts charged.

So the only real fact is that no one has yet been found guilty of anything, although you wouldn't know that from the rants of some...

Jim

 

[Metroyet]

It is amazing that the West pilots claims of cowardice and integrity disadvantage of the East on a daily basis on this forum, you post one public record that is not an opinion but facts and this soils their reputation.

Part of the public record, click here.

There isn't one single proven FACT in your link. It's opinion. I'm of the belief that if any feces, rocks or any other contraband sent to USAPA was actually sent by hardliner East pilots in an effort to trump up charges and frame some vocal West pilots.

Because USAPA is completely unable to prove a single accusation, it suggests to me an inside job.

 

[EastUS]

There isn't one single proven FACT in your link. It's opinion. I'm of the belief that if any feces, rocks or any other contraband sent to USAPA was actually sent by hardliner East pilots in an effort to trump up charges and frame some vocal West pilots.

Because USAPA is completely unable to prove a single accusation, it suggests to me an inside job.

"...it suggests to me an inside job." Makes perfect sense to me, as that's certainly a far more "reasonable" assumption than that such behavior could ever have even possibly come from the "I hate all of you'se!!" crowd.

 

[cleardirect]

It is amazing that the West pilots claims of cowardice and integrity disadvantage of the East on a daily basis on this forum, you post one public record that is not an opinion but facts and this soils their reputation.

Part of the public record, click here.

Also part of the public record. I would attach the whole thing but can not figure how the file is to big. These are the fact. An appeal does not mean that the facts change. A federal judge in North Carolina dismissed these charges. You know that, you need to stop trying to make a case where there is no case. Face it USAPA made up a case with no facts, if they continue they will get spanked for it.

VII. CONCLUSION
The Plaintiff’s allegation that the Defendants’ purpose is to “destroy
USAPA†undermines the Plaintiff’s RICO claims in two respects. By
asserting that the Defendants’ goal is the destruction of the Plaintiff itself,
the Plaintiff fails to meet the continuity requirement of RICO and also fails
to allege adequately an essential element of extortion, namely, that the
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Defendants seek to “obtain†the Plaintiff’s “property.†For these reasons,
the Court concludes that Counts One and Two of the Plaintiff’s Amended
Complaint fail to state a claim upon which relief can be granted, and
accordingly, these claims are dismissed. Because the federal claims
asserted by the Plaintiff have been dismissed, the Court declines to
exercise supplemental jurisdiction over the Plaintiff’s state-law claims
pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1367©(3), and these claims are therefore
dismissed without prejudice. The Plaintiff’s request for leave to file its
proposed Second Amended Complaint is futile and therefore is denied.
Finally, the Plaintiff’s requests for a temporary restraining order and a
preliminary injunction are rendered moot by the dismissal of the Plaintiff’s
state-law claims, and for that reason are denied.
Accordingly, IT IS, THEREFORE, ORDERED that the Motion to
Dismiss of Defendants AWAPPA, McIlvenna, Vasin, Blandino, Ferguson,
Koontz, and Payne [Doc. 42] and the Motion to Dismiss by Individual
Defendants Eric Auxier, David Braid, Al Casby, Christopher Cundari, Larry
Diehl, Ron Gabaldon, Bruce A. Hannah, Keith Krueger, Robert J. Narloch,
Shawn Metzker, CJ Szmal, Kevin Steele, and Jack Tooke, and Joinder in
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pursuaMotion to Dismiss Filed by AWAPPA Defendants [Doc. 77] are GRANTED
to the extent that Counts One and Two of the Amended Complaint are
DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICEnt to Rules 12(B)(1) and 12(B)(6) of
the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
Because the federal claims asserted by the Plaintiff have been
dismissed, the Court declines to exercise supplemental jurisdiction over
the Plaintiff’s state-law claims (Counts Three through Eleven) pursuant to
28 U.S.C. §1367©(3), and accordingly, IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that
these claims are DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.