US Pilots Labor Discussion 3/1- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES

[BoeingBoy]

Not worth arguing about...

Jim

 

[Pi brat]

Why are you getting so frustrated?

He's making great points that you can't counter.

If you want to be left alone, I suggest you leave the board. Otherwise, no crying.

See your PM.

 

[EastUS]

He's making great points that you can't counter.

Otherwise, no crying.

Really? List them. Even so much as ONE would be good.
"Otherwise, no crying."

 

[nic4us]

2 days without wi-fi and I cannot comment on 20 pages of remarks, so rather than quote individuals I will quickly sum.

1. Last I was online, the Moderator was in the process of deleting Black Swan's comments, which I had already read, no news there.

2. Sully's retirement/testimony: no comment per moderator's request.

3. "Failed career": nothing more than flamebait similar to "lotto ticket", "rookie" etc.

4. only wanting what you brought to the merger, includes the expectation that those in a position of less standing would remain in that relative position. i.e. employed pilots did not expect to get replaced by furloughees, yet it has happened.

5. Brucia's dissenting opinion was adressed in the Nicoula decision, and while it has merit, it also supports the reasoning for not giving more consideration to the furlough recalls. The fact that there were recalls to be had supported the West position that the east had more to gain from the merger.

6. The case is ripe, and will be affirmed by the 9th.

7. The RICO case does not bode well for usapa.

8. Not all LCC pilots have to pay union dues.

 

[OTTER574]

"Convicted?"

You really have little knowledge of the judicial system. Conviction is a term used in a criminal trial. USAPA was not "convicted" of anything because the trial was civil.

Keep building up your credibility, though. Very impressive.

Yup, you're right. Got a little zealous on my part.

Question to you?

Was there PERJURY committed during the Addington vs usapa trial from a certain ex alpa east pilot on the witness stand under oath in Federal District Court?

Last couple years, thanks to usapa and certain east pilots my legal jargon has improved. I'll try and pick up the slack with watching Judge Judy and reruns of Judge Wapner may he RIP.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

...Judge Wapner may he RIP.

Swung and missed again. Judge Joseph Wapner is STILL alive, according to my sources.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Well, gee. That's exactly why the whole matter is in a court of law. Why should anyone want to prove it to you on an internet message board?

They will either PROVE IT in court, or not. That is the whole idea, and that is why the case is continuing.

And, thank God, you don't get to decide it, either.

That's kind of a usapa-ish spin on things. A case is thrown out in record time, only to be appealed and have the appellate court take a year before it even looks at it. Only in usapa land is that case 'continuing', at least the way you are implying.

Meanwhile, you just keep on trashing people who were named in that suit for web board posts and calling a recorded hotline, accusing them of all kinds of other things you don't have any evidence of.

 

[OTTER574]

Swung and missed again. Judge Joseph Wapner is STILL alive, according to my sources.

My mistake,


Of course no answer on the perjury question from you or any others from the usapa fan club.

 

[OTTER574]

Swung and missed again. Judge Joseph Wapner is STILL alive, according to my sources.

Got another question for you.

What is DUAL UNIONISM and is it LEGAL in the US?

Most usapa founders should know.

 

[HPDriver]

RR,

Some very difficult decisions for the westies going forward!

Hate

Hate,

9th about to rule against USAPA

MDA lawsuit is dead

No chance for snapbacks.

Some very difficult decisions for the easties going forward.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Question to you?

Was there PERJURY committed during the Addington vs usapa trial from a certain ex alpa east pilot on the witness stand under oath in Federal District Court?

I don't really know what you are referring to.

What's more, since I'm not a federal prosecutor, it is not directly my concern.

But THAT would be a crime, subject to trial and CONVICTION.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Meanwhile, you just keep on trashing people who were named in that suit for web board posts and calling a recorded hotline, accusing them of all kinds of other things you don't have any evidence of.

Show me where I did that since the district court ruled.

If you mean "you" in a more general sense, you (in a personal sense) should make that clear.

 

[OTTER574]

I don't really know what you are referring to.

What's more, since I'm not a federal prosecutor, it is not directly my concern.

But THAT would be a crime, subject to trial and CONVICTION.

It's all on tape and all a matter of public record concerning east alpa mec and what they said in a federal trial under oath.

guess seham is up late?

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Show me where I did that since the district court ruled.

If you mean "you" in a more general sense, you (in a personal sense) should make that clear.

My apologies, I meant "you" in a general sense. I should have been more clear. Though I disagree with you about your reading of what the court situation is regarding RICO, you yourself have been good about at least saying the court will be resolving it. Other east posters haven't been quite as good about that, and they are the "you" I was referring to. Sorry about that.

 

[nycbusdriver]

It's all on tape and all a matter of public record concerning east alpa mec and what they said in a federal trial under oath.

guess seham is up late?

I didn't know they taped federal court proceedings. But that's neither here nor there, since the court reporter would have taken down every word in the official transcript.

Don't know much about Seham's sleep habits. I doubt he did anything at the trial that would keep him awake, though.

How many times did the judge call him out of order, or in contempt? Have criminal charges been filed over this "perjury?"

Didn't think so.

Imagination running away?