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QUOTE (BoeingBoy @ Feb 23 2010, 04:42 AM) *
So you tell me - which contract allows "almost unlimited" RJ's? The one with a limit of 163 or the one with a limit of 465? The one that allows a 3:2 increase in large RJ's or the one that allows a 1:1 increase in large RJ's if the mainline fleet grows above a given level? The one that allows up to 86 seats or the one that allows up to E190's?
You never answered my questions...an oversight I'm sure...
Jim
First of all, are we just supposed to take your word for it. You have no quotes or links to provide, to base your findings on.
Your figures are inaccurate, the ones I provided you in a previous quote are. There is a motive to your infatuation with this pilot labor discussion subject and in my opinion it is not for the betterment of society in general. You were an ALPA rep and flight pay loss recipient most of your career, were you not?
As far as your E190 quote, it is irresponsible for you to make a comment on this when such is only not true but violates the East contract. They can sell these aircraft to operate on another airline, but not USAirways
The following is a quote from a USAPA update;
"In our last update we discussed Section 1 of our contract. The following scope provisions protect our pilots in the event of asset sales (read sale of E-190’s) as well as the corresponding route transfers of E-190 flying that are now currently flown by Republic Airlines. Section 1(B) 4a, b, and c read as follows:
4. In addition to all other rights under the Agreement, if any pilot whose name appears on the then current System Seniority List would be furloughed in anticipation of or as a result of such action, the Company shall not:
a. Transfer any route segments currently flown by US Airways, Inc. to any Part 121 airline which is owned, controlled or operated by the Company, whether directly or indirectly through an affiliate or subsidiary wholly owned or controlled by the Company, or by a holding company of which the Company is a wholly owned subsidiary, or to another Part 121 airline using the US Airways designator code, name, logo or marketing identity; or
b. Sell, lease or otherwise transfer any aircraft currently owned, leased or operated by US Airways, Inc. or any new or used aircraft currently on firm order from the manufacturer or owner thereof, to any Part 121 airline which is owned, controlled or operated by the Company, whether directly or indirectly through an affiliate or subsidiary wholly owned or controlled by the Company, or by a holding company of which the Company is a wholly owned subsidiary, or to another Part 121 airline using the US Airways designator code, name, logo or marketing identity; or
c. Acquire any Part 121 airline which would be owned, controlled or operated by the Company, whether directly or indirectly through an affiliate or subsidiary wholly owned or controlled by the Company, or by a holding company of which the Company is a wholly owned subsidiary
Believe it or not (again) we received a response from Al Hemenway who disagrees with our take on the above language. The section above is part of our current agreement signed in contract 1998, to which the underlying document LOA 93 is attached. It appears that Mr. Hemenway is preparing to argue over the word “currently†that is in our contract as the E-190’s were not on the property in 1998. Since the aircraft were not delivered until 2008, “Big Al†thinks that our contract does not apply to the E-190. Nice try Al, but the contract is inclusive of all aircraft flown by US Airways; route and aircraft transfers are clearly in violation of our agreement if furloughs ensue. Once again it appears that we may be headed down the grievance trail with our management as they nitpick and find ways not to honor our contract.
