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US Pilots Labor Discussion 2/10- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES
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Phoenix
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The guy said he was there and claimed "twelve to fifteen AWA pilots showed up". What he can't count? Is this representative of his attention to detail?
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ALPA was a fat tick who's time had come. Nostalgia is an unreliable lens, but some still cling to it.
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Right. Why bother with facts when one can indulge themselves in a fantasy of superiority and delusions of grandeur instead?
The 18 buried that ridiculous lawsuit and USAPA found themselves, (once again) in a position all too familiar- failed, embarrassed, neutered, and whimpering.
USAPA has NOTHING on these guys. How is a civil case "career ending"? BTW USAPA has not offered a solution. Admitting guilt to something you didn't do is not a solution. Signing away your right to counter sue is not a solution.
Once Addington is put to bed, and the DOH fantasy is buried and rotting in the ground, I'd like to see a funding effort for the 18 to Counter Sue the disgraceful bully that has been attempting to terrorize them for two years. I'd happily donate just for the entertainment value of once again, rubbing USAPAs nose in their own failed initiatives. It's fun.
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Like I said- the concept of putting a AWA new hire on top of a guy like Jeff Skiles with 17 yrs. logged in with no interruptions at all, is disgusting. Tell it to the guy on the street. You will get a reality check as to why it was a WINDFALL. Bottom line- there was an election. ALPA lost. Deal with it.
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Contact JG Wentworth today for that structured settlement. Why wait for the cash? Have it today!$5 mil would be a bit much for each of the Cactus 18, but I'd think 200-300K apiece would be a reasonable award for the harm suffered. But the issue here would be whether the institution is liable versus the individual USAPA officers who were behind the suit, as individuals. Libel and defamation are intentional torts which leads me to believe we're talking individual liability and not entity liability, but I really don't know. The 18's lawyer will surely have it figured out though. As for the Addington damages, take half of the collected dues money and you're still looking at $6 mil or so. That paid over a few years would go a long way to help make the injured West pilots whole, but nothing will ever make them totally whole at this point. The damages award would follow to any voluntary change of bargaining agents, so the only potential way to possibly avoid paying damages would be to go non-union. Boy, wouldn't that be a hoot!
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Wow- is this how you guys get your hopes up all the time? It was like watching paint dry.
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And you THINK it wasn't. So I guess its' a stalemate. It was enough to be the last in a series of miscalculations that got ALPA removed. That was the end result.
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You agreed to live with the arbitration, that is an agreement, there is risk in going to an arbiter. You can't just back out after agreeing, if that is the case, then the company can do whatever it wants with you guys, since you set the precedent.
Its like you guys are playing poker, make a huge bet, lose, and then ask for your money back. Can't do that, gotta live with your agreements, like honorable people do.
Jim, Please explain how a pilot that loses 17 years service to a new hire is greedy.
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Oh, I figured him out a long time ago.
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He can't, nobody can!!
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