lynyrdskynyrd
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Your bad behavior is catching up to you. OJ got away with it, but you won't.
US Pilots Labor Discussion 12/27- OBSERVE THE RULES OF THE BOARD!
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Your bad behavior is catching up to you. OJ got away with it, but you won't.
Captain Underpants
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Sorry but you know that isn't true and anyone who truly believes that is either a liar or an idiot.
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Either and yes. My recollection is that a jury trial has already been requested, but I could be wrong about that.
As long as we are discussing this lets remember the pros and cons of a jury trial from each side's perspective.
Addington plaintiffs:
Pro: It can larger than what a judge might have awarded, stemming largely on how the jury likes or dislikes the show put on before them by respective counsel. In this case Seham has, in my observation, pissed off everyone he has argued the case in front of so there is no expectation that his whining ways will change any time soon. (Yes I used the word pissed. The word aggravated doesn't fully cover how bad it has been.)
Con: The jury can become confused, although one of the roles of the judge is to prevent that.
USAPA:
Pro: Hope you can confuse them.
Con: Seham is your counsel and I don't think he presents well at all. Bring Bringle back and not make him Seham's lap dog and your chances of success go up.
A trial to the court is quicker and less likely to cause an extreme verdict to either side. Of course it doesn't help to have already aggravated the judge in the case in how the case has been presented.
OTTER574
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nope, you're wrong underpants.
I've a lot of people/pilot friends/neutral arbitrators/jurors/FEDERAL JUDGES/HONEST LEGAL COUNSEL to back up my statements.
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Well put sir. I couldn't agree more. I'd further note that, fully removed from merely pecuniary concerns...The day will NEVER come when I'll ever have to turn to any First Officer and say: "Well...it WAS thirty pieces of silver after all!"..."So...isn't it really OK for some youngster, who was bicycling to 4th grade classes when you started your professional flying, to magically now become "senior" to you!???" It's an earnest issue of principles, and again NO!..I'll NEVER vote into existence ANYTHING that would implement the nic abomination...period.
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I think that I am a reasonable, level headed individual. In my case the NIC represents a hit - but not a knockout as it does for many F/O's. If all the east pilots were in my situation, I think we could live with the NIC.
However, that is not the case. Moreover, I will not vote for the Kirby proposal. I will also not vote for that which I already had several years ago - pre bankruptcy - in the form of LOA84.
The best thing I can do at the present time is the same thing I have been trained, and experience has taught me to do - wind my watch, wait and see what happens at the 9th, the LOA93 grievance and the MDA lawsuit.
I acknowledge all the mistakes the east has made. We have often been our own worst enemy. Either actively or passively, we allowed ALPA's change to merger policy go unchallenged. We waited for the mother of all litmus tests to take place before we reacted.
To me, integrity means standing by your fellow airmen and refusing to submit to injustice - and doing so because it is right, even it it is illegal.
However, that is not the case. Moreover, I will not vote for the Kirby proposal. I will also not vote for that which I already had several years ago - pre bankruptcy - in the form of LOA84.
The best thing I can do at the present time is the same thing I have been trained, and experience has taught me to do - wind my watch, wait and see what happens at the 9th, the LOA93 grievance and the MDA lawsuit.
I acknowledge all the mistakes the east has made. We have often been our own worst enemy. Either actively or passively, we allowed ALPA's change to merger policy go unchallenged. We waited for the mother of all litmus tests to take place before we reacted.
To me, integrity means standing by your fellow airmen and refusing to submit to injustice - and doing so because it is right, even it it is illegal.
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Well put sir...somehow..."nic is fair and equitable" and "it's only a cold sore" work together quite well
Seriously; I must admire those of you who still post here, as I've given up on conversing with the west contingent. In fullest fairness; I've "met" a very, very few west folks here who, despite the light years distance in perspectives per the nic, seem good sorts. Given that though..as a group that feels that the most aged in both years and flight hours pilots of any airline need the youthfull west "wisdom" evidenced by such comments as "That the east pilots require far more education and correction than any other group of employees at any other airline"....Well...shucks...I just don't much see merit in wasting further conversation with them.
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Indeed sir. It's perhaps worth noting that our very Nation was born from thoughts along those very same lines........
You just called Parker, Lakefield, Nicolau, Gillen, Brucia, Wake and I am pretty sure on Bybee, "either a liar or an idiot".
Moreover, you just called me an "idiot". Oh well, had a big scalding reply, but will just drop it.
( note to self......concerning underpants identity........might be an ex-girlfriend
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Elevation
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"and that jury will be empaneled at the damages trial next Spring." -AOL 1/4/2010
Capt, U
Please speak to someone you will believe about this legal case. The Addington case was never about what you just claimed.
Keep in mind that "fair and equitable" is in the eye of the beholder. And the beholder we allowed to decide what was "fair and equitable" has decided and it is the Nicolau award.
Please try and keep up.
Flip
Sorry, but it IS true and anyone who truly believes that the Nic is a non-starter is either a liar, an idiot, or a complete moron.
Of course not.Well...shucks...I just don't much see merit in wasting further conversation with them.
All you want to do is challenge us in dogfights.
Who else here has been challenged by him to a dogfight?
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Yo!
If memory serves it was (and probably still is) a $10,000 bet to prove his machismo.
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