US Pilots Labor Discussion 12/27- OBSERVE THE RULES OF THE BOARD!

[HPDriver]

Yo ableoneable,

Bad info ALERT! Just talked to Streble and he was still on the job. Try again.

Hate

I'm sure there was more to that conversation than you're letting on.

Anyway, I'm sure its only a matter of time. Ciabattoni isn't the only one that's bailing.

 

[Hate2fly]

I'm sure there was more to that conversation than you're letting on.

Anyway, I'm sure its only a matter of time. Ciabattoni isn't then only one that's bailing.

Yo Driver,

I told Streble to stay in for a while just to drive you westies crazy! Imagine 3000 plus guys just like me back here running this union. Even if every BPR member and Mike, Randy and Rob quit tomorrow we would install hardline guys that will do exactly what we tell them. This pilot group runs the show.

We will always have a divide in the eastern ranks.......it is a basic control issue. But we will always come together and fight against the Nic. Nothing will ever change that.

I talked to all the main players today and feel very comfortable. We all know who the real enemy is.

Hate

 

[AAA73Pilot]

Word on the street is that Streble just resigned as sec/treasurer.

Is this also part of "the plan"?

Your information is in error.

 

[Hate2fly]

Check your calendar. Meeting is only the 7&8. On the sixth there will be a picket in LAS can we count on you to come support your union brothers on the line? Come help save the LAS base.

Yo Clear,

I was planning on coming out, but one of my good buddies back east reminded me that you didn't support our effort for parity. Why bother picketing, just get your desert judge to issue another injunction to stop the base closure. Maybe the judge will turn some circles with you. I hear he is a real labor man!

Hate

 

[cleardirect]

Yo Driver,

I told Streble to stay in for a while just to drive you westies crazy! Imagine 3000 plus guys just like me back here running this union. Even if every BPR member and Mike, Randy and Rob quit tomorrow we would install hardline guys that will do exactly what we tell them. This pilot group runs the show.

We will always have a divide in the eastern ranks.......it is a basic control issue. But we will always come together and fight against the Nic. Nothing will ever change that.

I talked to all the main players today and feel very comfortable. We all know who the real enemy is.

Hate

I believe that you are overstating your position a bit. There are not 3000 guys back there that are willing to continue this. There are maybe 1000-1200 angry at the world pilots and shrinking. The rest are not paying attention, look at the last few votes.

Quite a control issue thing you have going on. Ordering people around telling them exactly what to do. How about stepping up and doing the job yourself? Make sure a hardliner is in charge.

This pilot group runs the show.

This is the most uninformed statement made on the board in a long time

Must have been busy today talking to ALL of the main players, good for you. One more thing you might want to re-aim your hate to the real enemy. Management.

BTW! Hate is an ugly emotion and emotional decision rarely turn out well. It might be time to reevaluate some things.

 

[AAA73Pilot]

I think my track record here is proven me as someone who has good sources and I stand by my statements. At least it won't take long to prove me right.

And that other shoe that I would predict would drop just did - Streble.

Your sources need to be checked. Your information is in error.

 

[HPDriver]

Your sources need to be checked. Your information is in error.

Patience.

 

[HPDriver]

...This pilot group runs the show...

Or maybe not.

The pilot group runs the show, I assume, via the BPR yet Ciabattoni states:

Had the Board been more assertive, as is your responsibility and Constitutional duty to enforce accountability, this might not have happened, but you were not and as a result, I have no desire to be associated with such an organization.

So he's claiming a lack of assertiveness and the inability to enforce accountability.

Who's in control again?

 

[Hate2fly]

Or maybe not.

The pilot group runs the show, I assume, via the BPR yet Ciabattoni states:

Had the Board been more assertive, as is your responsibility and Constitutional duty to enforce accountability, this might not have happened, but you were not and as a result, I have no desire to be associated with such an organization.

So he's claiming a lack of assertiveness and the inability to enforce accountability.

Who's in control again?

Yo Driver,

You should run for the open EVP position. It looks like they are going to keep the position until the next election cycle. You could get the judge to write a letter of recommendation for you.

Hate

 

[Metroyet]

Yo Driver,

I told Streble to stay in for a while just to drive you westies crazy! Imagine 3000 plus guys just like me back here running this union. Even if every BPR member and Mike, Randy and Rob quit tomorrow we would install hardline guys that will do exactly what we tell them. This pilot group runs the show.

We will always have a divide in the eastern ranks.......it is a basic control issue. But we will always come together and fight against the Nic. Nothing will ever change that.

I talked to all the main players today and feel very comfortable. We all know who the real enemy is.

Hate

Everything you're stating, with the intent you're stating it is Illegal. Funny how you guys can't help yourselves from shouting your real intentions from the roof tops. Even Seham can't contain himself in front of the Judge. Stupid is as stupid does I've heard. "We all know who the real enemy is"...That's hysterical. Remember the DFR conviction? I guess not. No matter. A stern reminder will be on your lap inside of 30 days.

The Meltdown has started as evidenced by the EVP scurrying for the high ground. More to follow.

2010 is going to be the year of the Grand Daddy legal ass-handing to USAPA...if it survives 2010.

 

[Hate2fly]

Everything you're stating, with the intent you're stating it is Illegal. Funny how you guys can't help yourselves from shouting your real intentions from the roof tops. Even Seham can't contain himself in front of the Judge. Stupid is as stupid does I've heard. "We all know who the real enemy is"...That's hysterical. Remember the DFR conviction? I guess not. No matter. A stern reminder will be on your lap inside of 30 days.

The Meltdown has started as evidenced by the EVP scurrying for the high ground. More to follow.

2010 is going to be the year of the Grand Daddy legal ass-handing to USAPA...if it survives 2010.

Yo Metroyet,

You think you can take my vote away........never happen! Even the judge realized he can't take our vote away.

All you legal scholars from the west crack me up. What are you going to do when you lose in the 9th? What are you going to do when the judges injunction goes bye bye?

Keep on paying those legal fees...............

Hate

 

[End of USAPA]

America West pilots need to get a better grip on where they stand in life. Really, this thing is just getting going and there will never be a Nicolau seniority list. You people have every intention of wrecking this professional industry and we will not let you do it. Seniority is seniority!

 

[HPDriver]

Seniority is seniority!

Of course it is - when its convenient for you.

As for the rest - big YAWN!

 

[luvthe9]

I believe that you are overstating your position a bit. There are not 3000 guys back there that are willing to continue this. There are maybe 1000-1200 angry at the world pilots and shrinking. The rest are not paying attention, look at the last few votes.

No, that's about right including around 85% of the top 500, we will never quit fighting!!!!

 

[HPDriver]

What are you going to do when the judges injunction goes bye bye?

If the motion to stay were going to happen, it would have happened already. So no "bye bye".

And no one here is taking away your vote. Your vote won't matter because it'll be irrelevant.