US IAM Fleet Service topic 9/23-

[Edward]

I know fleet has been quiet, but here is the new topic just in case.

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[Ramp Rogue]

How does one go about finding out whether they have been bypassed for overtime? We as employees have no access to workbrain, so how are we to know if OT is being called in the right order. Or is anyone even signed up? Those that are calling the OT can easily take your name off of the list, then call their buddy who is next in line. The same way they can cancel your trades without you knowing about it, then try and get you for no showing. Any help on these matters would be greatly appreciated.

Rogue

 

[Old Guy]

How does one go about finding out whether they have been bypassed for overtime? We as employees have no access to workbrain, so how are we to know if OT is being called in the right order. Or is anyone even signed up? Those that are calling the OT can easily take your name off of the list, then call their buddy who is next in line. The same way they can cancel your trades without you knowing about it, then try and get you for no showing. Any help on these matters would be greatly appreciated.

Rogue

The list should be posted on the union board. Your steward should have access to the list for updates. Who ever asking for the OT is to sign off on the list. (sick ,vac ,etc) You have to go to your steward to get on the list with a contact number and get averaged in. And you may have local rules. This is how the M&R contract reads. Yours may differ but I doubt it.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

The list should be posted on the union board. Your steward should have access to the list for updates. Who ever asking for the OT is to sign off on the list. (sick ,vac ,etc) You have to go to your steward to get on the list with a contact number and get averaged in. And you may have local rules. This is how the M&R contract reads. Yours may differ but I doubt it.

In my station there is no list. The managers claim that they call whomever is first in line by charges. There is no proof that whom they call is actually first in line. When questioned about it, they just say that birdbrain (workbrain) chooses who gets the OT. But I know for fact that they can manipulate birdbrain to adjust the OT sign up log.

Rogue

 

[SpinDoc]

Okay. For those who do not understand the OT process for fleet service, I will explain how it is done in stations that have Workbrain.

Agents sign up for OT on the overtime sign-up sheets located in station administration. They can choose to sign up for any classification they are qualified to work, such as fulltime, part-time, lead agent, catering, tower, etc. Station administration then inputs the names from the OT sign-up sheets into Workbrain and a list is printed along with the number of hours of OT worked in the current quarter. Agents with the least number of quarterly OT hours go to the top of the list.

For example, if I held fulltime status in CLT or PHL, and I had accumulated zero hours of OT in the quarter, then I would be called first to fill OT or shift extension. Regardless of my seniority, I would still be called before another fulltime agent who has more than zero hours of OT in the quarter. The last person to be called would be the agent with the most amount of hours of OT worked in the current quarter.

Workbrain keeps track of all OT worked and cannot be manipulated to allow an agent with more hours to go to the top of the list. The only weak link in this entire process is transferring names from the sign up sheets into Workbrain. Since Workbrain keeps track of this information, it is very easy to determine when someone has been bypassed, either intentionally, or not. If a bypass is discovered and proven, there is a remedy available under the IAM fleet service contract.

Hope this is helpful to all of those who do not understand how the process works.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

We don't sign up on any sheet in administration. We go into birdbrain and sign up. Once we sign up in birdbrain, we never see the list of who signed up, and how many hours they have accumulated. The managers then go into birdbrain and pull a name out of the hat and say you have the OT, do you want it. We have know idea if this is being done honestly or not.

Rogue

 

[700UW]

Ask to see the list with the hours, if not get your shop steward involved, its that easy, you have a contract and make the company abide by it.

 

[necigrad]

There was a memo posted in LAS recently that ALL the OT lists were pulled at 0800 the day prior. For example, if you want OT on Sunday, you must input the request in Workbrain by 0800 Saturday. The memo also noted that anyone enering availability after 0800 would still appear on the list, but they would be added to the bottom.

I don't know how it works at other stations, but if this is not the same everywhere, someone needs to file a grievance.

In other news, someone was asking a while back about the seperation of PT shifts. Here in LAS we've been going by 1 hour. As above, this should be the same systemwide. If CLT does two hours, and we do one, we should be at two as well.

 

[mike33]

There was a memo posted in LAS recently that ALL the OT lists were pulled at 0800 the day prior. For example, if you want OT on Sunday, you must input the request in Workbrain by 0800 Saturday. The memo also noted that anyone enering availability after 0800 would still appear on the list, but they would be added to the bottom.

I don't know how it works at other stations, but if this is not the same everywhere, someone needs to file a grievance.

We pull the list 2 days prior but pull the "Call List " 1 day prior. there is a difference as the 2 days prior list has all that have signed up prior to 2 days before the overtime day. The " Call List " prioritizes the overtime acording to Class/charges. The list thats pulled 2 days prior is always available to see where you lie on the list. if you sign up on the list after the 2 day cut off and you come up on the " Call List " you are not called until everyone on the 2 Day list has been called. little confusing but it's really not................

 

[freedom]

I'm sick of sucking up smog we need to go green on the ramp!

 

[necigrad]

Well Freedom, you're a Company man. Take time out of your days off, write a grant to get the Company money to pay for electric equipment and charging stations, and find a place to actually provide the money.

 

[28L_or_10R?]

Well Freedom, you're a Company man. Take time out of your days off, write a grant to get the Company money to pay for electric equipment and charging stations, and find a place to actually provide the money.

In 2011, US and other airlines at LAX will be using synthetic diesel from a company called Rentech. The fuel will be the by-product of mostly grass clippings and other municipal wastes. Toxic emissions will be close to zero. Rentech is also capable of producing jet fuel and testing of this fuel is taking place currently. CO has tested it on some experimental flights and they have been pleased. Visit www.rentechinc.com

 

[Edward]

Folks this is about fleet service issues(US), lets stay on that topic.

 

[necigrad]

Actually this is very much a fleet topic. No one in an airline spends more time working around the equipment then us. This equipment is often fixed by removing emissions systems. Spend time quick turning a flight with a fuel truck pumping exaust right at you and you'd understand.

 

[ChockJockey]

I'm sick of sucking up smog we need to go green on the ramp!

You should switch to menthols.

I kid, I kid. The electric rigs we have in PHX suck. They just do. They're nowhere near as consistent and reliable as their gas and diesel counterparts. Even if the ramp went green you'd still be sucking up smog because of 1.) jet exhaust and 2.) you're smack dab in the middle of the Valley with freeways on all four sides of you...