TWU one line local for maint.

[1AA]

Their is a video out of Little's right hand man out of Miami collecting IBT cards, if anyone from MIA would post it that would be helpful.

You referring to this video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQZvuj2S-w

 

[Overspeed]

You have documentation to this claim? If not then you need to sober up a bit. Come back tomorrow when you can think straight. I bet your happy that this alignment is in the works. How does the membership benefit from this change?

Exactly what Bob said in his 8/17 letter. Less local politics and more focus on the whole group of AMTs on the Line and Base. No TUL versus AFW, no JFK versus DFW, etc... Financially, it makes a lot of sense, one President making top AMT wages & benefits plus a salary is cheaper than 5 Presidents making top AMT wages & benefits plus salary. 5 is more than 1.

So now we can hire the best lawyers if we want, get an single arbitration team of the best advocates, have more money to go to negotiations, etc...

 

[1AA]

Exactly what Bob said in his 8/17 letter. Less local politics and more focus on the whole group of AMTs on the Line and Base. No TUL versus AFW, no JFK versus DFW, etc... Financially, it makes a lot of sense, one President making top AMT wages & benefits plus a salary is cheaper than 5 Presidents making top AMT wages & benefits plus salary. 5 is more than 1.

So now we can hire the best lawyers if we want, get an single arbitration team of the best advocates, have more money to go to negotiations, etc...

Again you failed to answer the question. Why bother. OK your turn keep rambling on.

 

[rifbound]

EXACTLY!!! He got just what he wanted but Gless beat him to the punch! Awesome! Looks like Owens underestimated the real New Yorker!!! This is awesome! "Ponytail Power...ACTIVATE!"

Dave, now Bob can do the full flip flop now and come out of the AMFA closet. Could you please send him his allotment of AMFA cards? Oh, and nice satin AMFA jacket too! Bob needs to be big pimpin'

STFU! Really, "Ponytail Power...ACTIVATE!" Sounds like you pull some TWU ponytail to activate something alright. Quit sucking down the TWU throat yogurt and wake up to see who is really screwing you. So when AA liquidates or you still gonna love the TWU for all they have done? They gave the farm away, when are you going to see that through your crusted up eyes? Gless and Little have done nothing for any of us but give away what those before us fought for. It's all about their job security, not ours. Where were their pay cuts when we were/are taking ours? In fact, haven't they got a pay raise since all the give backs started?

 

[strikeforce]

Exactly what Bob said in his 8/17 letter. Less local politics and more focus on the whole group of AMTs on the Line and Base. No TUL versus AFW, no JFK versus DFW, etc... Financially, it makes a lot of sense, one President making top AMT wages & benefits plus a salary is cheaper than 5 Presidents making top AMT wages & benefits plus salary. 5 is more than 1.

So now we can hire the best lawyers if we want, get an single arbitration team of the best advocates, have more money to go to negotiations, etc...

Boy, wouldn't it be great if Pike and Owens represent M&E now that 567 and DWH belong to 514. And, wouldn't it be great if Peterson tranfers to DWH just so he can run against the idiot's Cirri and Hewitt. This might just work out for the Line. Hahahahahahahahaha.......

 

[Overspeed]

STFU! Really, "Ponytail Power...ACTIVATE!" Sounds like you pull some TWU ponytail to activate something alright. Quit sucking down the TWU throat yogurt and wake up to see who is really screwing you. So when AA liquidates or you still gonna love the TWU for all they have done? They gave the farm away, when are you going to see that through your crusted up eyes? Gless and Little have done nothing for any of us but give away what those before us fought for. It's all about their job security, not ours. Where were their pay cuts when we were/are taking ours? In fact, haven't they got a pay raise since all the give backs started?

Well not true. 1.5% a year was something except for the years following 2009. Why? Remember we voted down the deal that was recommended by the Int'l in May 2010. The one Owens, Ruiz, Peterson, Schalk, MacTiernan, Schiable, and Pike said vote no on because we could get better. The deal that would have paid you $38/hour for the last three years. Thanks guys.

Maybe you should move Peterson, Ruiz, Pike, and Owens belly and double chins out of the way so you could have read the 2010 TA instead of believing their BS. Yes AA was headed for BK but look at the MCT's. They voted yes back in 2010 and kept their raise. That could have been you right now with no pay cut and making more than UA. You know UA, the airline Bob says he wants to get paid like even though we had that deal almost three years ago now.

Time to start holding the right people accountable. Owens, Ruiz, Schiable, Peterson, MacTiernan, Schalk, and Pike. They lied then and they are still lying now. Unfortunately you still believe their BS. It's okay to admit you were mislead by them.

And AA won't liquidate, they have more cash reserves than UA, NW, DL, and US had when they went in to BK. AA did not even have to get DIP financing when they entered BK. Horton is a financial wiz and went in while he could still have more control than the other guys. Yes it sucks but again, Bob and his crew got played and now they are blaming everyone but themselves. They screwed up and misplayed their hand.

 

[rifbound]

Well not true. 1.5% a year was something except for the years following 2009. Why? Remember we voted down the deal that was recommended by the Int'l in May 2010. The one Owens, Ruiz, Peterson, Schalk, MacTiernan, Schiable, and Pike said vote no on because we could get better. The deal that would have paid you $38/hour for the last three years. Thanks guys.

Maybe you should move Peterson, Ruiz, Pike, and Owens belly and double chins out of the way so you could have read the 2010 TA instead of believing their BS. Yes AA was headed for BK but look at the MCT's. They voted yes back in 2010 and kept their raise. That could have been you right now with no pay cut and making more than UA. You know UA, the airline Bob says he wants to get paid like even though we had that deal almost three years ago now.

Time to start holding the right people accountable. Owens, Ruiz, Schiable, Peterson, MacTiernan, Schalk, and Pike. They lied then and they are still lying now. Unfortunately you still believe their BS. It's okay to admit you were mislead by them.

And AA won't liquidate, they have more cash reserves than UA, NW, DL, and US had when they went in to BK. AA did not even have to get DIP financing when they entered BK. Horton is a financial wiz and went in while he could still have more control than the other guys. Yes it sucks but again, Bob and his crew got played and now they are blaming everyone but themselves. They screwed up and misplayed their hand.

Ok, say the pipe dream of $38hr went through. We would no longer have that because that would be given back to AA in BK. They say we make too much anyway. Plus more loss of our benefits. Yes AA can do whateveer they want. Liquidate, merge or whatever. Other airlines will fall over each other running to the fire sale.
You're right one one thing. Time to start holding people accountable...that's the TWU. 14 years I've been here and in that short time I've never got a raise and have done nothing but take paycuts, loss of benefits, and job loss. So who is responcable for that? NOT Owens, Ruiz, Schiable, Peterson, MacTiernan, Schalk, and Pike. IT'S THE TWU.
I'm not mislead by anyone but the TWU. Your TWU is crying foul on what the company "said" what they would do. So who really got played? That's right, the TWU and it's members. Thanks to guys like you. Thanks, thanks for giving up again.

 

[Overspeed]

Ok, say the pipe dream of $38hr went through. We would no longer have that because that would be given back to AA in BK. They say we make too much anyway. Plus more loss of our benefits. Yes AA can do whateveer they want. Liquidate, merge or whatever. Other airlines will fall over each other running to the fire sale.
You're right one one thing. Time to start holding people accountable...that's the TWU. 14 years I've been here and in that short time I've never got a raise and have done nothing but take paycuts, loss of benefits, and job loss. So who is responcable for that? NOT Owens, Ruiz, Schiable, Peterson, MacTiernan, Schalk, and Pike. IT'S THE TWU.
I'm not mislead by anyone but the TWU. Your TWU is crying foul on what the company "said" what they would do. So who really got played? That's right, the TWU and it's members. Thanks to guys like you. Thanks, thanks for giving up again.

I disagree and yes, that is just an opinion however I base it on what we are looking at with MCT CBA. They got to keep their wages. I agree, BK was happening unless the APA settled. Not blaming them but AA was going to play that card because they had the most leverage. Pilot jobs are the hardest to reduce and downsize.

AA is most likely going to merge, not liquidate.

Again, the TWU Int'l recommended voting yes on the 2010 TA. They are just as much the TWU and they recommended a great deal. The vote no coalition did not and they are responsible for stamping no on TA books, making videos that distorted the facts, sending out letters with misleading information, and running around the system spreading false hope. They said BK was a scare tactic...oops!

Giving up all your overhaul at AS, UA, and most of it US...that's better than the TWU? Yes AS makes more than AA but they gave up all the overhaul jobs. UA after 8 years finally makes more than the AA and that's a win? And they gave up all their airframe overhaul in the process. US is just finally getting off the bottom with more than 50% of their work outsourced. Do you want the TWU to give up all components and airframe so the rest will get $38? Hey wait a second, we had $38 almost three years ago but we voted no per our fearless leaders the vote no coalition.

 

[strikeforce]

I disagree and yes, that is just an opinion however I base it on what we are looking at with MCT CBA. They got to keep their wages. I agree, BK was happening unless the APA settled. Not blaming them but AA was going to play that card because they had the most leverage. Pilot jobs are the hardest to reduce and downsize.

AA is most likely going to merge, not liquidate.

Again, the TWU Int'l recommended voting yes on the 2010 TA. They are just as much the TWU and they recommended a great deal. The vote no coalition did not and they are responsible for stamping no on TA books, making videos that distorted the facts, sending out letters with misleading information, and running around the system spreading false hope. They said BK was a scare tactic...oops!

Giving up all your overhaul at AS, UA, and most of it US...that's better than the TWU? Yes AS makes more than AA but they gave up all the overhaul jobs. UA after 8 years finally makes more than the AA and that's a win? And they gave up all their airframe overhaul in the process. US is just finally getting off the bottom with more than 50% of their work outsourced. Do you want the TWU to give up all components and airframe so the rest will get $38? Hey wait a second, we had $38 almost three years ago but we voted no per our fearless leaders the vote no coalition.

and, you think the no vote coalition is screwed up. hahahahahaha

you're just an IDIOT!!!

 

[iluvaa]

and, you think the no vote coalition is screwed up. hahahahahaha

you're just an IDIOT!!!

Ive got other choice names for him but would get banned for expressing them

 

[strikeforce]

Ive got other choice names for him but would get banned for expressing them

Isn't it amazing that these idiots actually believe their own b.s.

He's now predicting that AA would have had 11K guys keep their $38/hr pay based on 80 guys. This guy is sick.....he needs meds brother.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Exactly what Bob said in his 8/17 letter. Less local politics and more focus on the whole group of AMTs on the Line and Base. No TUL versus AFW, no JFK versus DFW, etc... Financially, it makes a lot of sense, one President making top AMT wages & benefits plus a salary is cheaper than 5 Presidents making top AMT wages & benefits plus salary. 5 is more than 1.

So now we can hire the best lawyers if we want, get an single arbitration team of the best advocates, have more money to go to negotiations, etc...

dont make me laugh
the TWU ATD is best at is concessions for the members and raises for the international reps for doing such a great job

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Well not true. 1.5% a year was something except for the years following 2009. Why? Remember we voted down the deal that was recommended by the Int'l in May 2010. The one Owens, Ruiz, Peterson, Schalk, MacTiernan, Schiable, and Pike said vote no on because we could get better. The deal that would have paid you $38/hour for the last three years. Thanks guys.

Maybe you should move Peterson, Ruiz, Pike, and Owens belly and double chins out of the way so you could have read the 2010 TA instead of believing their BS. Yes AA was headed for BK but look at the MCT's. They voted yes back in 2010 and kept their raise. That could have been you right now with no pay cut and making more than UA. You know UA, the airline Bob says he wants to get paid like even though we had that deal almost three years ago now.

Time to start holding the right people accountable. Owens, Ruiz, Schiable, Peterson, MacTiernan, Schalk, and Pike. They lied then and they are still lying now. Unfortunately you still believe their BS. It's okay to admit you were mislead by them.

And AA won't liquidate, they have more cash reserves than UA, NW, DL, and US had when they went in to BK. AA did not even have to get DIP financing when they entered BK. Horton is a financial wiz and went in while he could still have more control than the other guys. Yes it sucks but again, Bob and his crew got played and now they are blaming everyone but themselves. They screwed up and misplayed their hand.

if it was obviously wrong, why didn't the IEC and IAC override the members and implement in the best interest of the union?
or do they use them as scapegoats for the TWU ATD inability to secure a contract for their members.
The TWU does nothing to counter the company and remains silent to the company #### slapping union members in negotiations. Great leadership!! Their only response "what ever you guys want to do" but vote "yes" because we can't fight the company and will blame the negotiating committee and the members afterwards.
what ownership does the TWU ATD take for anything concessionary?

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

The new catch phrase for the twu


1.THEY CAN DO THAT
2.YOUR OUT OF ORDER


this union is a joke

if you have had enough its time for check off bankrupt them as they have bankrupt you...

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

I hearr the appointed line rep will be Todd Woodward