TWU one line local for maint.

[Chuck Schalk]

We still have separate contracts and can have separate negotiations. So two locals and two presidents. Isn't that what Bob wanted?

nice try again to spin an ATD agenda

the ATD blames the baker letter for this.....why not just say what it really is about?
The ATD blames everyone else for everything and yet keep shouting we will get them next time!

 

[odie01]

567 local has over 600k in the bank, and the International says we are not financially solvent?

TAESL will come unglued if they are represented by the twu local 514 turncoats !!!!!!!!!

In fact, they can kiss their 75 day engines good-by, because all your experience will leave if this happens.

 

[1AA]

I wonder how many fleet service locals are staying put with less money than some Maintenance locals. This is all a orchestrated plan to silence the line stations and use the Baker letter as an excuse.

AMFA can not come fast enough.

 

[odie01]

Their is a video out of Little's right hand man out of Miami collecting IBT cards, if anyone from MIA would post it that would be helpful.

 

[NYer]

How much will we have to pay for the Maintenance Officers if American is not paying the salaries because the Baker Letter is gone? Can all the Local's afford that?

 

[strikeforce]

Hahaha the Twu strikes again so funny I can't help but laugh. Can't wait to get the hell out so you folks can enjoy this shity company and union

hahahahahahahahahaha.........and, they're not wasting any time either. Bob will be out of their hair by christmas. gotta love the twu!

 

[Observer]

I was told that this was a PROPOSAL, to be considered and comments were invited or alternative ideas. How the UNION does the business of representing its' members in a manner that reflects the efficient use of each locals resources should be the main concern. Maybe a better idea would be to have a geographic local, DFW a stand alone, LAX and SFO, MIA and JFK area, and ORD, by itself. The economic health of the local should be the base condition for survival. The line resources would be consolidated (isn't that what is wanted) into a centralized grouping, with the base 514, and Tasel rounding out the reorg. Now is the time for critical thinking, not the usual BS that has gone on here for years.

 

[iluvaa]

567 local has over 600k in the bank, and the International says we are not financially solvent?

TAESL will come unglued if they are represented by the twu local 514 turncoats !!!!!!!!!

In fact, they can kiss their 75 day engines good-by, because all your experience will leave if this happens.

Welcome to hell hahaha fly up for a meeting haaa your out of order brother F the Twu

 

[Overspeed]

Really? I thought this was your idea that you were pushing no less than 2 months ago? Open your mouth, give them the general idea, and presto, the TWU jumps at the chance to "smoke and mirror" change to prevent the membership from leaving and getting a new union.

This is just the next "appeasement" after the shaft that James C Little has offered in the past.

It doesn't matter this time though, AMFA will be representing us at AA soon enough.

EXACTLY!!! He got just what he wanted but Gless beat him to the punch! Awesome! Looks like Owens underestimated the real New Yorker!!! This is awesome! "Ponytail Power...ACTIVATE!"

Dave, now Bob can do the full flip flop now and come out of the AMFA closet. Could you please send him his allotment of AMFA cards? Oh, and nice satin AMFA jacket too! Bob needs to be big pimpin'

[background=transparent]Dear Brothers and Sisters:
The news that the concessions, that can be best described as 'Gross Overkill,' were accepted by a very narrow margin. No doubt devastating to at least the 96% of M&E and XX% of Stores members of our Local, who, despite the risks that were emphasized emphatically by our International and their experts, voted to take on the fight and vote NO. For many, this will be the last straw and seeking employment outside of AA will be a better option than to continue to work for an employer that demands the 'Best' but pays the 'Least.' For those who plan to remain, the question is: what’s next?
I realize that many of you are signing cards for either the IBT or AMFA to replace the TWU. We have seen many drives in the past. As an Officer and your representative to the TWU, my job is to try and make this organization serve your interests. That is what I plan to do. I can say that I’m not alone. Leaders of the five (5) cornerstone cities and AFW have been discussing changes we feel are necessary for this organization to best serve its members in the future.
I recognize what we have is a deeply flawed organization. The results speak for themselves. Despite my efforts, as it currently stands, I have not been able to make this organization serve our interests. Being paid much less than our non-union peers in the industry is not in our best interests. But, I also recognize, within this organization as a whole, there are several successful TWU Locals that serve their members well. We see TWU Local 556 at Southwest getting their members an industry-leading contract. Here in New York we have Local 100, who a few short years ago resisted the “concessions for jobs” threat and maintained wages, even though the MTA laid off many workers because TWU Local 100 refused to give away things they bargained for. Those who were laid off eventually were all called back. Those are just a few examples where TWU members are very well served. There are others. We need to try and model the AATD for M&R along the same line as the successful SWA Local 556 and Local 100 models.
The key difference between those successful models and what we currently have at AA is that the contracts belong to the Locals. All the members of the contract are in one autonomous Local. Everyone with authority is accountable to the members of the Local. There is a single leader elected by the members who administers the contract. While consolidation into one Local is just one of the options discussed, this would likely mean the end of Local 562. Considering what we currently have is (without a doubt) broken, it’s something we must be open to. Some form of consolidation is necessary. Right now our contract is split up over a dozen different Locals. The majority of Line Maintenance is in the Five Cornerstone Locals of 561, 562, 563, 564 and 565. With the current structure, even with Local 567 with us, we are still a minority on the negotiating committee. Under the current structure, we could have more Fleet Service Presidents voting than Mechanic Presidents on the content of a proposed mechanic contract.
To our Stores members, I’m not ignoring you. It’s just that as long as Maintenance is screwed, up you will continue to suffer as well. If we fix Maintenance, we will have fixed Stores as well. What I’m asking of you is to support our efforts to bring change to the AA/TWU M&R (including Stores) structure by appealing directly to International President Jim Little and the IEC (International Executive Council). Encourage them to be open to meeting with the leaders you put in place and to not fall into the trap of considering criticism to be an attack. When you pay union dues and earn considerably less than industry average, something is wrong. They can either meet with us to fix what’s wrong or risk losing us entirely. I believe we all realize, including Jim Little and the IEC, changes are necessary. Hopefully, they will realize that loyalty is no substitute for competency, and make changes accordingly. Even if it impacts those who are loyal supporters of the status quo. Even if you’ve given up on the TWU and have decided to try and get another organization in place, I ask, ‘what do you have to lose,' by trying to bring about change from within?
Fraternally, [/background]

Bob Owens
President Local 562

 

[Overspeed]

I was told that this was a PROPOSAL, to be considered and comments were invited or alternative ideas. How the UNION does the business of representing its' members in a manner that reflects the efficient use of each locals resources should be the main concern. Maybe a better idea would be to have a geographic local, DFW a stand alone, LAX and SFO, MIA and JFK area, and ORD, by itself. The economic health of the local should be the base condition for survival. The line resources would be consolidated (isn't that what is wanted) into a centralized grouping, with the base 514, and Tasel rounding out the reorg. Now is the time for critical thinking, not the usual BS that has gone on here for years.

Read the document. It's not a proposal, the IEC flipped the switch. The elections will happen be done by 12/21/2012. It's a done deal. Looks like the seat of the line local will be DFW.

The reason cited in the letter from Gless was that the removal of the Baker Letter, the long term survival of the locals is the issue. The document says salaries will now cost the locals $100K a year alone.

 

[1AA]

I was told that this was a PROPOSAL, to be considered and comments were invited or alternative ideas. How the UNION does the business of representing its' members in a manner that reflects the efficient use of each locals resources should be the main concern. Maybe a better idea would be to have a geographic local, DFW a stand alone, LAX and SFO, MIA and JFK area, and ORD, by itself. The economic health of the local should be the base condition for survival. The line resources would be consolidated (isn't that what is wanted) into a centralized grouping, with the base 514, and Tasel rounding out the reorg. Now is the time for critical thinking, not the usual BS that has gone on here for years.

I was told that two presidents at the meeting objected to the realignment of the locals. Bobby Gless told them they were out of order. Who in the hell is in charge here?
We are powerless people. Time to get rid of the TWU NOW!

Sign an AMFA card. Lets get it done before we are done.

 

[Overspeed]

How much will we have to pay for the Maintenance Officers if American is not paying the salaries because the Baker Letter is gone? Can all the Local's afford that?

The letter says $100K a year plus salaries. Since Owens stated already he gets $22K on top of his UBB, 562 will for him alone be in for $122K annually. He has posted here that the Baker letter was hush money when he was on the outside after he and Schalk got booted by the Int'l before. Now he is pissed because he lost his deal.

 

[1AA]

The letter says $100K a year plus salaries. Since Owens stated already he gets $22K on top of his UBB, 562 will for him alone be in for $122K annually. He has posted here that the Baker letter was hush money when he was on the outside after he and Schalk got booted by the Int'l before. Now he is pissed because he lost his deal.

You have documentation to this claim? If not then you need to sober up a bit. Come back tomorrow when you can think straight. I bet your happy that this alignment is in the works. How does the membership benefit from this change?

 

[Overspeed]

I was told that two presidents at the meeting objected to the realignment of the locals. Bobby Gless told them they were out of order. Who in the hell is in charge here?
We are powerless people. Time to get rid of the TWU NOW!

Sign an AMFA card. Lets get it done before we are done.

The TWU Constitution plus the DOL state the union has a fiduciary responsibility to the members. This includes making sure locals can stay solvent. The IEC reviewed the new cost to the locals and found they could not afford to exist without the Baker letter. Read Gless letter. AMFA did the same thing when NW, AS, and UA membership dropped. The closed the locals operationally. This is what Owens wanted, he is your hero. It's all good brother.

 

[1AA]

Bobby Gless letter? He wrote it right? High school drop out making six figures. What a suck A$$! I would rather have Bob Owens on my side than your pathetic being.