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DallasConehead
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Me thinks the "mediator" is on the payroll.. Get ready M&R, we're next.
TWU negotiations.........what?
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The RLA is a biased oppressive law and should be repealed. After EFCA that should be the next goal of the AFL-CIO.
There's no longer any semblance of balance or fair play in the enforcement of its rules, the NMB is a corporate ally. From the Mediators saying that a 50% paycut is reasonable (Continental-ALPA) while a 50% increase is unreasonable (NWA-AMFA) to the fact that Contracts are only binding on the workers while the airlines are left options to get out of a deal they find unfavorable at any time (BK end run around status quo provision) the law does nothing for workers and secures a supply of labor for the airlines at rates the airlines are free to set despite the presence of Unions.
Mr.Robot-tow
Member
So if I bring forward a motion at my next local meeting to wildcat my station (to walk off the property for say an hour),to bring attention to the media,that American Airlines refuse's to honor any contractual bargin sessions (per the RLA) in good faith.Maybe get pilot domicle's to work with us also to walk off the aircraft for a hour to disrupt American's operations.Is this out of line to what American is doing right now in neg's,I have talked to pilots and they said they would join us in a heartbeat.What say you Bob O.
I say that it would be a violation of the RLA and that your Board could not legally entertain the motion. If we were under the NLRA, or a citizen of a "First World" nation and enjoyed the same rights that most workers who live in countries that are recognized as Democracies do then we could make motions to have strikes at any time since our contract became amendable over a year and a half ago. But we dont live in a free country where workers have rights, we live in a country where corporations write the rules and we have to live by them.
(A Wildcat is an unathorized -by the union-strike or Job action. Wildcats have been considered "Illegal" actions in the United States since 1935.)
Mr.Robot-tow
Member
I disagree,then members must organize against it's Union leadership.And they will it is just a matter of time.We will never get a fair contract any longer unless this membership revolt's against this carrier and against it's Union leadership.The TWU by-laws were written to support this type of behavior both the union's and the companies.Why are you wasting so much effort on restucturing the election bylaws because one of your on member's is trying to undermine the rest of it's Presidents.All during a time when members are hurting really bad.Title III should have declared a impasse but the team that is currently negoiating failed to do this last week,and allowed a mediator to run the show and continues to support the companies position.I say wildcat them,and let the company take them to court to determine a fine if any this will hurt the TWU's pocket and the companies pocket and put pressure of the negoiating teams both the company/and the TWU.The press will carry the story,and this will show the flying public,that this carrier is unreilable.The FAA also will continue to put pressure on American as well.By showing up to work and continuing to work by the current contract does nothing this a quote that the union leadership supports.What say you Bob O?
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Do you understand that if you wildcat you will be terminated and its against the law?
And when you are in Section 6 negotiations and in mediation, the mediator does run the show, its a simple fact.
The best thing you can do is work by the book, not a slowdown but just make sure you adhere to AA's rules and procedures, it will get them everytime.
And when you are in Section 6 negotiations and in mediation, the mediator does run the show, its a simple fact.
The best thing you can do is work by the book, not a slowdown but just make sure you adhere to AA's rules and procedures, it will get them everytime.
eolesen
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How's that extension nobody wanted to consider looking now, eh?... Call it them taking sides if you want, but if anything, putting negotiations into a holding pattern might be the best thing you could hope for. At the rate the Dems are pumping into the economy thru stimulus and programs like Cash for Clunkers, I'd expect the economy to turn around just in time for the February 2010 primaries.
Since EFCA is a shadow of where it started out, I don't know that I'd be holding my breath waiting for AFL-CIO to do much of anything to help airline workers...
Since EFCA is a shadow of where it started out, I don't know that I'd be holding my breath waiting for AFL-CIO to do much of anything to help airline workers...
If we are lucky, the AFL-CIO will help us less than they helped the UAW.
eolesen
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Go read bob's post above where it says "The RLA is a biased oppressive law and should be repealed. After EFCA that should be the next goal of the AFL-CIO."
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It is a biased and oppressive law, it was set up to protect interstate commerce, not employees who want to be in a union.
I have worked under it for over 20 years and been on the Negotiating Committee for the IAM at US Airways Mechanic and Related where I worked and also was assigned to CO's FA negotiations back in 2005.
I have worked under it for over 20 years and been on the Negotiating Committee for the IAM at US Airways Mechanic and Related where I worked and also was assigned to CO's FA negotiations back in 2005.
TIME FOR CHANGE
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They never paid AA a dime. The 50 million was a wash so long as they agreed to the last contract.
You are correct fighting from inside is better then looking in from the outside.
BY THE BOOK False. The APA paid about half of the approximately $45 million fine before the rest was "forgiven" in the 2003 concessions.
Mr.Robot-tow
Member
Sooo,fighting from the inside got you a timely contract,a cost of living raise,COLA,back pay,vacation days double time,etc...etc.
