TWU negotiations.........what?

[JimJimmyJim]

So you don't want us to go by the book. At least not if it's going to delay your flight. Of course it's not your job that will be lost. The book is the book. Sorry your delayed, NOT.

It is what it is.

 

[ReadyNow]

So you don't want us to go by the book. At least not if it's going to delay your flight. Of course it's not your job that will be lost. The book is the book. Sorry your delayed, NOT.

It is what it is.

Professional AMT's always go by the book, work quickly and add value to their airline. Working slow and peforming needless steps is a sign of an incompetent mechanic who is hiding behing some self destructive behavior while claiming to serve some higher purpose. Everyone is this category should go back to polishing airplanes or cleaning latrines

 

[BigMac]

Professional AMT's always go by the book, work quickly and add value to their airline. Working slow and peforming needless steps is a sign of an incompetent mechanic who is hiding behing some self destructive behavior while claiming to serve some higher purpose.
Everyone is this category should go back to polishing airplanes or cleaning latrines

So it is your belief that OSM's (clean latrines) and A/C cleaners (polish airplanes) are self destructive, work slow and perform needless steps ? :down:

 

[JimJimmyJim]

Professional AMT's always go by the book, work quickly and add value to their airline. Working slow and peforming needless steps is a sign of an incompetent mechanic who is hiding behing some self destructive behavior while claiming to serve some higher purpose. Everyone is this category should go back to polishing airplanes or cleaning latrines

If it's in the book how can it be needless. I never said anything about working slow. They write the rules not me.

 

[DallasConehead]

If the crew cheif can sit on a scratch for a couple hours till the plane hits the gate then hands out the scratch after the plane hit the gate for 20 min. why would I run out like the house is on fire????

All technicians should be encouraged to use the resources available, i.e. the AMM,IPC, GPM.FIM, etc.etc and to keep up to date and current on their required training. This should be done during negotiations or not, and should be considered a way of our professional work life. This is to enhance safety and on time performance and lesson exposure to FAA actions. Unfortunately there are a great many that spend more time reading the paper or watching TV or surfing the net instead of studying or becoming familiar with the manuals during down time.

As for CC's that sit on assignments for 2 hours, if the crew chief has time to set up the job, i.e. pulling and ordering the resources needed, then they should, but, this should not be a reason for the technicians to not be familiar with the manuals and ready to use them when necessary. Sometimes the CC's may be inundated and have no time for this. What's more, no one should expect you to run out like the house is on fire. Everyone knows that when we cave in to operational tempo, serious mistakes can and will happen.

Our primary concern as professional airline mechanics is for the safety of the passengers, crew and equipment.

On time departures are important to the health of the company, but never ever play a role to override our primary concern.

 

[1Conehead]

If it's in the book how can it be needless. I never said anything about working slow. They write the rules not me.

We all know tere are a bunch of "needless" steps in the book,small example relamping one call light per the book calls for a whole check of the crew call system.
If they want by the book give them by the book.
You should never catch hell for being compliant,but we should be allowed to use our brains.

 

[JimJimmyJim]

We all know tere are a bunch of "needless" steps in the book,small example relamping one call light per the book calls for a whole check of the crew call system.
If they want by the book give them by the book.
You should never catch hell for being compliant,but we should be allowed to use our brains.

If you said you did it by the AMM in your sign off you had better have done just that. By the end of the year you'll be putting down the reference in the AMM fo every task you do. When the axe falls for a problem that manager isn't going to defend you for getting the job done, he's going to fry you for not going by the paperwork. I know one hell of a worker who is now being investigated for getting the job done quick with a good fix but, management is still putting him throught the s===. By the book and the GPM. CYA

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Our members are constantly being asked to do things to help the company but the leaders of upper management do nothing to reciprocate. Our contracts are already one year past the amendable date and we are suffering into our seventh year since the “Great Concessionsâ€￾. This is why retro pay is a “must haveâ€￾. The company should not benefit from refusing to bargain in good faith and dragging out negotiations.

 

[Hopeful]

We just got a raise!!!!! $200 AIP payout before tax.........what more do you want?

 

[MCI transplant]

------ Don't spend it all in one place!!!

 

[WeAAsles]

Our members are constantly being asked to do things to help the company but the leaders of upper management do nothing to reciprocate. Our contracts are already one year past the amendable date and we are suffering into our seventh year since the “Great Concessionsâ€￾. This is why retro pay is a “must haveâ€￾. The company should not benefit from refusing to bargain in good faith and dragging out negotiations.

Chuck they wanted 2 years from the beggining and they're going to stall as long as possible to get it. Any member that votes yes for anything that doesn't have full retro back to last May is a total fool. To think I used to like this job once? :down:

 

[FrequentFlierCA]

We just got a raise!!!!! $200 AIP payout before tax.........what more do you want?

If you'd rather not take the bonus I'm sure the company treasury will welcome your money back.

Talk about being damned if you do and damned if you don't. Do I think you deserve more? Absolutely. But why not just take what you earned and give thanks for it instead of mocking it and using it as a PR smear?

 

[WeAAsles]

If you'd rather not take the bonus I'm sure the company treasury will welcome your money back.

Talk about being damned if you do and damned if you don't. Do I think you deserve more? Absolutely. But why not just take what you earned and give thanks for it instead of mocking it and using it as a PR smear?

Because all it is is a PR smear from a company that lost it's sense of decency a very long time ago. The AIP was the tiny tiny little bone we got for giving up our wives and homes in the decimation of 03. AA makes it sound like it's beyond amazing that we received this CRUMB. My goodness we're all working so hard for a LOUSY $200. I'll take it but I won't thank them for it until they can deal in good faith for real. And I'll take it because it's CONTRACTUAL and AA doesn't have a choice at all. Look you have a right to say whatever you want in this public forum but you are not walking in my shoes at all. I hope you never have to because you may just want to put a bullet in your head after? We've had quite a few HUMAN BEINGS who have since 03.

 

[Hopeful]

If you'd rather not take the bonus I'm sure the company treasury will welcome your money back.

Talk about being damned if you do and damned if you don't. Do I think you deserve more? Absolutely. But why not just take what you earned and give thanks for it instead of mocking it and using it as a PR smear?

I'll give it back when Arpey and Co. give back theirs.

 

[FrequentFlierCA]

Giving up your wives and homes in the decimation of 2003? Spare us the melodrama.

No one is questioning that you gave up a lot. But there was self-interest there as well; the concessions enabled AA to avoid bankruptcy and kept your wages from being cut further. It also prevented the loss of your retirement plan and probably saved quite a few jobs in the end.

Personally I don't want you to give back anything. I just don't understand why you can't take the bonus, small though it may be, and move on without making a huge political issue out of it.