TWU negotiations.........what?

[787nightmare]

Let's see what the TWU spinmiester's can do with this pig. It truly sucks, but if it is incorporated with an early out, it just might sell.

"but if it is incorporated with an early out, it just might sell."

IMO, that's the plan. They(AMR & TWU)are cleverly devising a plan on how they can get enough senior mechs to bite, take an early out-along w retirements, to force feed those left behind to be stuck w this turd for 6-LONG-YEARS. They WILL figure out a way.

Could be wrong, but...

 

[DNTULSA]

Aviation is a harsh mistress..(author unknown)

 

[Birdman]

Like I said earlier. I have a strong feeling I will be voting NO on this, even though I voted YES on the previous T/A.

Like I asked HSS, to which he never replied, what will be gained by voting yes? What will be lost by voting no?

Let's see what the TWU spinmiester's can do with this pig. It truly sucks, but if it is incorporated with an early out, it just might sell.

It's been reported there are approximately 620 age 60 and older, hardly enough to garner a majority yes vote.

 

[787nightmare]

Like I asked HSS, to which he never replied, what will be gained by voting yes? What will be lost by voting no?


It's been reported there are approximately 620 age 60 and older, hardly enough to garner a majority yes vote.

^^^^^^^-last paragraph
If that's the case, then no, probably wouldn't work.

 

[paul1]

yes I voted yes on the last t/a , but this is the bottom of the barrel, what did i do to aa to deserve this, since 2003 we have all continue to come to work and do are best everyday , tulsa guys go to dfw to save hail damaged aircraft. guys working 4 overs and sixth days just to make end meets. AA doesn't give a rats ass about us we are just all numbers no matter what we do or hard we try , they will continue to take and take.At this point I don't even think AA knows what they really want except zero wages if they could get them. We continue to sink deeper and deeper with no relief in sight.

the faa doesn't give a #### that rockwell and does line maint. on our aircraft using a repair station license or fleet service is doing wing ice inspection ( no random drug testing) and the list goes on and on. The people on the hill really don't care either they throw out some bs every now and then , but they don't care they are shipping are good low paying jobs to the south and other places.

The U.S. Prez is not standing up for labor, even knowing we voted him in.

The future is always uncertain, BUT THE END IS ALWAYS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @&*!& it

 

[iluvaa]

yes I voted yes on the last t/a , but this is the bottom of the barrel, what did i do to aa to deserve this, since 2003 we have all continue to come to work and do are best everyday , tulsa guys go to dfw to save hail damaged aircraft. guys working 4 overs and sixth days just to make end meets. AA doesn't give a rats ass about us we are just all numbers no matter what we do or hard we try , they will continue to take and take.At this point I don't even think AA knows what they really want except zero wages if they could get them. We continue to sink deeper and deeper with no relief in sight.

the faa doesn't give a #### that rockwell and does line maint. on our aircraft using a repair station license or fleet service is doing wing ice inspection ( no random drug testing) and the list goes on and on. The people on the hill really don't care either they throw out some bs every now and then , but they don't care they are shipping are good low paying jobs to the south and other places.

The U.S. Prez is not standing up for labor, even knowing we voted him in.

The future is always uncertain, BUT THE END IS ALWAYS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @&*!& it

I've never denied that I voted yes on the last TA but I'm a big HELL no on this.

If they want this crap they need to go to DA JUDGE and impose it.

F AA and there Puppet union

 

[dfw gen]

Its real simple come in collect a check do as little as possible. Enjoy the slow ride to the end. Max out on the 401k get your financial house in order. Enjoy the flight benefits see the world unrolled the end!

 

[dfw gen]

Scrrew em' the pbgc will end up with the pensions when this sorry mess comes to an end. Fortunately it takes a long time for an airline to die! Get what you can while you can!

 

[DallasConehead]

Aviation is a harsh mistress..(author unknown)

The air is an extremely dangerous, jealous and exacting mistress. Once under the spell most lovers are faithful to the end, which is not always old age. Even those masters and princes of aerial fighting, the survivors of fifty mortal duels in the high air who have come scatheless through the War and all its perils, have returned again and again to their love and perished too often in some ordinary commonplace flight undertaken for pure amusement.

— Sir Winston Churchill, 'In The Air,' Thoughts and Adventures, 1932.

 

[dfw gen]

Its real simple come in collect a check do as little as possible. Enjoy the slow ride to the end. Max out on the 401k get your financial house in order. Enjoy the flight benefits see the world unrolled the end!

 

[texasreb]

^^^^^^^-last paragraph
If that's the case, then no, probably wouldn't work.

You forgot about the dead guys the twu digs up for votes. The last one said we had 17,000 elegible to vote.

 

[dfw gen]

-remember be the brick.........

 

[787nightmare]

You forgot about the dead guys the twu digs up for votes. The last one said we had 17,000 elegible to vote.

;-))
Ah yes...."noted".

 

[Hopeful]

This will end up going to the judge. AA knows nobody will vote yes for this crap.

Just remember...This has just become the last best offer which will be imposed if the judge agrees to abrogate.

 

[odie01]

Some more good news from the AMP press
....Again not official
We really need to get AMP or AMFA nmb cards signed before we are gutted, contact
http://www.ampnational.org/
if you care to help


UPDATE-More from negotiations:


The Companies offer includes the right to establish work schedules that include Sat & Sun without restriction to 7 day coverage and eliminates the (1/7th rule). The Company will use the tech crew chief rules when picking regular crew chiefs, eliminate PV days, it allows for management to develop new field trip procedures, eliminates all job protection language and available seat mile restrictions. Allows for the use of OSM's on the docks and increases our medical costs.


These are just the things in the lowlight sheet, there is know telling what under the table backroom deals the company and the union are not telling us about!!