TWU negotiations.........what?

[Hopeful]

When can we submit our resume's, this waiting game sucks! Hate to take a job now only to get juked by AA and their scare campain. Bob, what's going on with these double secrect probation negotiations?

A full text is being prepared. A vote is coming. Check your union local website.

 

[AA89]

Several carriers have described what they perceive as widespread problems in the maintenance, repair, and overhaul indus-try at a panel at the MRO Americas conference. The four participants, employees of Federal Express, Atlas Air, Spirit Airlines, and TAP Portugal, represent a broad spec-trum of business models, aircraft, and maintenance prac-tices. Though the individual gripes differed from operator to operator, there was broad agreement on such topics as late turnaround, insufficient data, and an inexperienced workforce. George Silverman, the vice president of materi-el at FedEx, used the example of control surface damage sustained to the company's Airbus aircraft at Dallas-Fort Worth in a severe weather episode on 3 April, which also disrupted the MRO conference. "I'm just giving a specific example that has been replicated many times, we will be sending those elevators to a place called Spain," says Sil-verman. "And it will take probably upwards of three-quarters of a year to a year to get those back. We will end up probably having to go on the open market and buy those elevators in the near-term." … (Flightglobal)...Just sayin`

AAs management has all that figured out. Keep the work in-house by paying the workers MRO wages and benefits. They are geniuses I tell you.........

 

[Buck]

AAs management has all that figured out. Keep the work in-house by paying the workers MRO wages and benefits. They are geniuses I tell you.........

While your average mechanic is going to vote for and live under whatever is being developed ( negotiated ), those being laid off and being delegated to a OSM position have become very vocal concerning their future in aviation.

 

[787nightmare]

AAs management has all that figured out. Keep the work in-house by paying the workers MRO wages and benefits. They are geniuses I tell you.........

Exactly. And the TWU & AMR are counting on a "YES" vote this time.
"Had enough yet??".....I can hear it.

 

[Frank Szabo]

Exactly. And the TWU & AMR are counting on a "YES" vote this time.
"Had enough yet??".....I can hear it.

Interesting - per 247wallst.com, AMR is #2 on the "Most Hated Corporations" list - AT&T is #3.

I wonder why they haven't a listing for unions?

 

[paul1]

A full text is being prepared. A vote is coming. Check your union local website.

That's Funny!!!!!!!!! The Uniformed. EVERYTHING is a big feffen secert. A couple a weeks ago we where suppose to hear from the company. Nothng from are union, what jobs was aa looking to cut less of. And what about Tulsa breaking off to have there own meeting with the aa? Terry Maddox from the dallasnews puts more info out.

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

US industry voices concerns about aerospace workforce

By Christine Boynton | April 16, 2012


US aerospace chiefs are increasingly worried about sustaining a viable aerospace industry workforce, they told a Washington DC summit Thursday.

“We’re short 500 mechanics,” AAR Corp chairman and CEO David Storch said at the US Chamber of Commerce 11th Annual Aviation Summit D. The company does roughly 3.8 million hrs. of maintenance a year. “Each of us has the obligation and responsibility … to make sure that future workforce is out there for us,” he said.

Initiatives such as getting the younger generation excited about aviation, as well as investing in training and working with local institutions, are measures that may be critical to the industry going forward. “We don’t pay attention here, we won’t have an industry,” Storch said.

Airbus Americas chairman T. Allan McArtor added, “We do have an obligation to be actively involved. We have to generate first the interest … then we have to shape the curriculum and course content.”

Rockwell Collins chairman, president and CEO Clayton Jones said, “Most of the very large, iconic businesses … are not in a good position in terms of hiring and growing because of the defense side of it. That’s going to ultimately hurt all of aviation.”

He added, “We have to stop the bleeding—no matter what side you are—of significant reductions.”

ROFLMAO
get the younger generation excited. Thats good just start off with the one weeks vacation for five years working every holiday on nights for the first 20 years that should have them stampeeding towards the door. The EXIT door
LOL LOL

 

[AA767JET]

What a joke LMAO ROTFL !!!
Its a bit to late for this ...


US industry voices concerns about aerospace workforce

By Christine Boynton | April 16, 2012


US aerospace chiefs are increasingly worried about sustaining a viable aerospace industry workforce, they told a Washington DC summit Thursday.

“We’re short 500 mechanics,” AAR Corp chairman and CEO David Storch said at the US Chamber of Commerce 11th Annual Aviation Summit D. The company does roughly 3.8 million hrs. of maintenance a year. “Each of us has the obligation and responsibility … to make sure that future workforce is out there for us,” he said.

Initiatives such as getting the younger generation excited about aviation, as well as investing in training and working with local institutions, are measures that may be critical to the industry going forward. “We don’t pay attention here, we won’t have an industry,” Storch said.

Airbus Americas chairman T. Allan McArtor added, “We do have an obligation to be actively involved. We have to generate first the interest … then we have to shape the curriculum and course content.”

Rockwell Collins chairman, president and CEO Clayton Jones said, “Most of the very large, iconic businesses … are not in a good position in terms of hiring and growing because of the defense side of it. That’s going to ultimately hurt all of aviation.”

He added, “We have to stop the bleeding—no matter what side you are—of significant reductions.”
[/quote]

 

[texasreb]

Interesting - per 247wallst.com, AMR is #2 on the "Most Hated Corporations" list - AT&T is #3.

I wonder why they haven't a listing for unions?

And the common denominator with att&t/AA is Tom Horton. What a surprise.

 

[odie01]

This off the Amp press, not official but probably close enough.....

Update from negotiations the company has presented what they call their "last best offer" to the committee, it includes a 6yr contract with the first raise (1.5%) 12 mo. from date of signing. The closure of AFW, Taesl to remain open, the transfer of the slide, coffemaker & battery shops to DWH, it also contains provisions to out source 35% of all work currently done inhouse, this number does not include work currently outsourced (So the real percentage would be more like 50%). The outsourcing of all 777 MBV 767 FS & 757 mid and heavy cks.

The other lowlights include 35% of title II to be moved to (c scale) Plant maintenace man & 30% of Title I to be moved to OSM at Tul, Taesl & DWH. The outsourcing of Title II at headquarters and flagship university and almost all of GSE, the window, blade & vein and carpenter shops in Tulsa, freezeing of our pensions and new plan of a 3% up to 5.5 % if you match 401k, company to rewrite the overtime and holdover rules, there is a hint of earlyout/buyout but no details yet and to much other info to mention here so stay tuned, more to come.

 

[Vortilon]

This off the Amp press, not official but probably close enough.....

Update from negotiations the company has presented what they call their "last best offer" to the committee, it includes a 6yr contract with the first raise (1.5%) 12 mo. from date of signing. The closure of AFW, Taesl to remain open, the transfer of the slide, coffemaker & battery shops to DWH, it also contains provisions to out source 35% of all work currently done inhouse, this number does not include work currently outsourced (So the real percentage would be more like 50%). The outsourcing of all 777 MBV 767 FS & 757 mid and heavy cks.

The other lowlights include 35% of title II to be moved to (c scale) Plant maintenace man & 30% of Title I to be moved to OSM at Tul, Taesl & DWH. The outsourcing of Title II at headquarters and flagship university and almost all of GSE, the window, blade & vein and carpenter shops in Tulsa, freezeing of our pensions and new plan of a 3% up to 5.5 % if you match 401k, company to rewrite the overtime and holdover rules, there is a hint of earlyout/buyout but no details yet and to much other info to mention here so stay tuned, more to come.

This will end up going to the judge. AA knows nobody will vote yes for this crap.

 

[TWU informer]

This will end up going to the judge. AA knows nobody will vote yes for this crap.

Like I said earlier. I have a strong feeling I will be voting NO on this, even though I voted YES on the previous T/A.

But what is the plan after that idea?

Is there going to be any changes within the TWU/AFL-CIO after another group is raped?
Or is there going to be an admission of a serioulsy failed strategy and begin a new idea?
I mean are we going to keep playing the Political Arena game that is failing us all?
Or has there even been any thought to a plan of change?

 

[furp]

TWU at it's best!!!!!

 

[DNTULSA]

This off the Amp press, not official but probably close enough.....

Update from negotiations the company has presented what they call their "last best offer" to the committee, it includes a 6yr contract with the first raise (1.5%) 12 mo. from date of signing. The closure of AFW, Taesl to remain open, the transfer of the slide, coffemaker & battery shops to DWH, it also contains provisions to out source 35% of all work currently done inhouse, this number does not include work currently outsourced (So the real percentage would be more like 50%). The outsourcing of all 777 MBV 767 FS & 757 mid and heavy cks.

The other lowlights include 35% of title II to be moved to (c scale) Plant maintenace man & 30% of Title I to be moved to OSM at Tul, Taesl & DWH. The outsourcing of Title II at headquarters and flagship university and almost all of GSE, the window, blade & vein and carpenter shops in Tulsa, freezeing of our pensions and new plan of a 3% up to 5.5 % if you match 401k, company to rewrite the overtime and holdover rules, there is a hint of earlyout/buyout but no details yet and to much other info to mention here so stay tuned, more to come.

Let's see what the TWU spinmiester's can do with this pig. It truly sucks, but if it is incorporated with an early out, it just might sell.

 

[Tex-Mech]

This off the Amp press, not official but probably close enough.....

Update from negotiations the company has presented what they call their "last best offer" to the committee, it includes a 6yr contract with the first raise (1.5%) 12 mo. from date of signing. The closure of AFW, Taesl to remain open, the transfer of the slide, coffemaker & battery shops to DWH, it also contains provisions to out source 35% of all work currently done inhouse, this number does not include work currently outsourced (So the real percentage would be more like 50%). The outsourcing of all 777 MBV 767 FS & 757 mid and heavy cks.

The other lowlights include 35% of title II to be moved to (c scale) Plant maintenace man & 30% of Title I to be moved to OSM at Tul, Taesl & DWH. The outsourcing of Title II at headquarters and flagship university and almost all of GSE, the window, blade & vein and carpenter shops in Tulsa, freezeing of our pensions and new plan of a 3% up to 5.5 % if you match 401k, company to rewrite the overtime and holdover rules, there is a hint of earlyout/buyout but no details yet and to much other info to mention here so stay tuned, more to come.

That is basically the same as what a shop steward said when he came by the shop today. He was reading off all the stuff the company still wants. I guess they were talking about it at the hall today. None of it was good.