TWU negotiations.........what?

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Is inflation being factored into our negotiations and we lost another 6% of purchasing power for our families on top of everything. Without an inflation factor in our contract we lost a lot more over the last several years!

pdated 5:34 p.m. ET Feb. 26, 2008
WASHINGTON - In more bad economic news, consumer confidence and home prices posted sharp declines while higher costs for such basics as food and energy left wholesale inflation rising at the fastest pace in a quarter-century.

The new reports Tuesday raised the threat of a return of "stagflation," the economic curse of the 1970s in which economic growth stagnates at the same time that inflation continues racing ahead.

The 1 percent January jump in wholesale prices was led by a surge in the prices of energy, food and prescription drugs and followed a report last week that consumer prices had risen by a bigger-than-expected 0.4 percent because of price pressures in the same areas.


Over the past 12 months, wholesale prices rose by 7.4 percent, the largest yearly gain since late 1981. Analysts warned consumers to brace for more bad inflation news with crude oil prices rising to records above $100 per barrel and with more evidence that the prolonged jump in energy prices is starting to break out into more widespread price problems.Meanwhile, the New York-based Conference Board reported that its confidence index fell to 75.0 in February, down from a revised January reading of 87.3. The drop was far below what analysts had forecast and put the index at its lowest level since February 2003, a period that reflected anxiety in the leadup to the Iraq war.

A third report showed that home prices, measured by the S&P/Case-Shiller Index, dropped by 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year, compared with the same period in 2006, the steepest decline in the 20-year history of the index.

"Home prices across the nation and in most metro areas are significantly lower than where they were a year ago," said Yale University professor Robert Shiller, one of the index's creators. "Wherever you look, things look bleak."

Analysts said rising inflation, slumping home prices, a turbulent stock market and an economy flirting with a recession were all combining to rattle consumers' nerves.

"There is no evidence that the recent collapse in consumer confidence is going to turn around any time soon," said Brian Bethune, senior economist at Global Insight. He said the drop in confidence will lead to a cutback in consumer spending that will trigger a brief recession in the first half of this year. And he cautioned that "severe negative dynamics" at present could make the forecast of a mild recession too optimistic.



However, Wall Street was able to shake off the spate of bad economic news Tuesday, focusing instead on an announcement by IBM of a $15 billion stock buyback program designed to boost its 2008 earnings. The Dow Jones industrial average rose 114.70 points to close at 12,684.92.

Private economists predicted further declines in housing prices in the months ahead as the two-year housing slump continues with no signs of a turnaround. The demand for homes is being constrained by tighter lending standards imposed by financial institutions suffering multibillion-dollar losses from soaring mortgage foreclosures. Those foreclosures are dumping more homes back onto an already glutted market.

RealtyTrac Inc., based in Irvine, Calif., reported that the number of homes facing foreclosure climbed 57 percent in January from the previous year and more lenders are being forced to take possession of homes they can't unload at auctions.

The Bush administration insisted that the recently passed $168 billion economic stimulus bill, which will provide rebate checks to millions of families and tax breaks to encourage business investment, should stabilize the economy.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said President Bush had been briefed on all the economic figures released Tuesday and was closely following developments. "We're in a softening period," she said. "And the question is, how soft is it going to be and how steep is the downturn going to be?"

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is scheduled to deliver the central bank's twice-a-year economic report to Congress on Wednesday, testimony that will be closely followed to see whether the uptick in inflation will divert the Fed from what became in January an aggressive rate-cutting campaign to combat a possible recession.


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Fed Vice Chairman Donald Kohn, in a speech Tuesday, said the Fed remained concerned about the weak economy, signaling the possibility of further rate cuts. While noting recent "disappointing" news on inflation, he said, "I do not expect the recent elevated inflation rates to persist," in part because the slowing economy should ease pressure on wages.

The 1 percent jump in wholesale prices in January followed a 0.3 percent decline in December and a 2.6 percent spike in November.

The wholesale report said energy prices jumped 1.5 percent, as gasoline prices rose by 2.9 percent and the cost of home heating oil soared by 8.5 percent. Food costs jumped by 1.7 percent, the biggest monthly increase in three years.

Core wholesale inflation, which excludes food and energy, posted a 0.4 percent increase, the biggest increase in 11 months and double what analysts had expected. This gain was led by a 1.5 percent spike in the cost of prescription and nonprescription drugs as well as higher costs for books, autos and plastic products.
 
Word has it the company is very disappointed with the twu's economic proposal.

While the cost of living increases yearly the company expects us to live on wages we were making back in the early 90's

Moral will continue to decline in direct proportion to our declining standard of living.

:D
 
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Word has it the company is very disappointed with the twu's economic proposal.

While the cost of living increases yearly the company expects us to live on wages we were making back in the early 90's

Moral will continue to decline in direct proportion to our declining standard of living.

:D


Word is it that the proposals are meaningless, what you end up with is the only thing! and if history proves correct, We will end up with nothing close of what we have given up or need!
 
Word has it the company is very disappointed with the twu's economic proposal.

While the cost of living increases yearly the company expects us to live on wages we were making back in the early 90's

Moral will continue to decline in direct proportion to our declining standard of living.

:D


Not so fast. The TWU Local 514 Leadership is preparing to have members wear their new 2008 Negotiations t-shirts and/or polo shirts on Wednesdays. This will surely get us what we need. Satire of course
 
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I wonder what it must be like to vote in your union leadership by direct membership vote like the APFA, Local 100, and APA? Oh thats right, I am a TWU member of the TWU Air Transport Division and that does not apply to us! My bad, I thought we were democratic!
 
I'm trying a new job with the state transportation authority. 2 year top out, 12 sick days, 12 holidays and 23yrs. and out with the pension. I have met several former AMT'S from NWA and UA at my shop. The unions contract proposal is 6% annual wage incr. for the next 4 years. Friends, there is life after the airlines.
 
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News flash:

The company has not played their trump card. The Pilots and Flight attendants will fight the company hard on the next contract and if the company is unable to get their contracts they have the trump card of filing for bankruptcy! Thats right bankruptcy! Think about it, everyone else has used the bankruptcy to get what they need except for us. It will not be tomorrow but sleep tight my co-workers there is a back up plan. With oil over 100 dollars a barrel, old airplanes, worker unrest, pension plans, debt...etc it will not be that difficult to cultivate the airline into a bankruptcy situation if they want to. Mark this date you will remember these words!
 
It was announced at the local 565 meeting this past Thursday that the twu will be giving the company a comprehesive package this coming Thursday that will include all of our demands. It will include all outstanding articles and monetary issues. It will be a take it or leave proposal, I'm sure the company will leave it. Meanwhile at SWA airlines, a 3 year extension letter is on the table for 3% up front, and 2% in 2009 and 2% in 2010. <_<

So the twu's new number to beat is $43 and hour. :shock:
 
I wonder what it must be like to vote in your union leadership by direct membership vote like the APFA, Local 100, and APA? Oh thats right, I am a TWU member of the TWU Air Transport Division and that does not apply to us! My bad, I thought we were democratic!

Well actually we at AMR are uniquely undemocratic because of our structure, 21 locals under one contract and none of them own the contract. SWA has a different setup, all their members in each of each class and craft (fleet service and the FAs)are in one Local each, that local owns the contract for that workgroup, thats why they dont understand the difficulties we face. I can recall how officers of the Flight Attendants Local at SWA told me that they were getting interference from the International during their last round of negotiations (the International wanted to tell them how to negotiate) but since they were in a single local, and it would be easy for them to leave should the international become too intrusive, they were able to fend them off. We dont have that capability since we dont own the contract and our workgroups are spread out all over the place.
 
I'm trying a new job with the state transportation authority. 2 year top out, 12 sick days, 12 holidays and 23yrs. and out with the pension. I have met several former AMT'S from NWA and UA at my shop. The unions contract proposal is 6% annual wage incr. for the next 4 years. Friends, there is life after the airlines.
Welcome my friend to the ranks of recovering airline employees! I joined three years ago and have not looked back. Life on the outside is good, isn't it?
 
Rumor Control has received word that the latest, greatest package being brokered between da CompAAny and the TWU is language that claims a "phased snap-back" to the pre-2003 Home Invasion contracts...

Terming it as, "language that is being brokered between the parties," is due to information that the parties will sell the deal as a "full snap-back" while leaving fuzzy the details as to be determined.

If this song and dance goes according to previous tunes: there will be "arbitrations" over the pace, scale and time periods for the "full snap-back."

Those arbitrations will, regrettably, be lost due to collusion between the CompAAny and corrupt Arbitrators/Courts...not the failure of the TWU to negotiate adequate language prior to sending the Proposed CBA out to the Membership for Ratification.

Think a six or seven year contract characterized by language sold as being a snap-back which is, in actuality, a balloon payment contingent on measures not within the contract: and,

Articles of Intent for each article covered by the CBA that mutually define the specifics covered by each article and the intent of the parties with respect ot same; and,

BK Section 1113 protection letters within the CBA, covering the entirety of the CBA; and,

Enhanced Equipment Trust Certificates, EETC's, securitizing any actual versus assumed status of the TWU DBPs' against ownership of future aircraft that are released as actual versus assumed funded status of the DBPs' is realized.

Bottom line is that both sides are playing hard and fast against NOV 03. Unions must use the threat and Companies must negotiate against the possibilities...in any event, we may find ourselves with a TA subject to ratification sooner rather than later based purely on the internal dynamics of the negotiations process.

Both parties may agree to wait out actual ratification until after NOV 03.

And the beat goes on...and on...and on.
 
Rumor Control has received word that the latest, greatest package being brokered between da CompAAny and the TWU is language that claims a "phased snap-back" to the pre-2003 Home Invasion contracts...

Terming it as, "language that is being brokered between the parties," is due to information that the parties will sell the deal as a "full snap-back" while leaving fuzzy the details as to be determined.

If this song and dance goes according to previous tunes: there will be "arbitrations" over the pace, scale and time periods for the "full snap-back."

Those arbitrations will, regrettably, be lost due to collusion between the CompAAny and corrupt Arbitrators/Courts...not the failure of the TWU to negotiate adequate language prior to sending the Proposed CBA out to the Membership for Ratification.

Think a six or seven year contract characterized by language sold as being a snap-back which is, in actuality, a balloon payment contingent on measures not within the contract: and,

Articles of Intent for each article covered by the CBA that mutually define the specifics covered by each article and the intent of the parties with respect ot same; and,

BK Section 1113 protection letters within the CBA, covering the entirety of the CBA; and,

Enhanced Equipment Trust Certificates, EETC's, securitizing any actual versus assumed status of the TWU DBPs' against ownership of future aircraft that are released as actual versus assumed funded status of the DBPs' is realized.

Bottom line is that both sides are playing hard and fast against NOV 03. Unions must use the threat and Companies must negotiate against the possibilities...in any event, we may find ourselves with a TA subject to ratification sooner rather than later based purely on the internal dynamics of the negotiations process.

Both parties may agree to wait out actual ratification until after NOV 03.

And the beat goes on...and on...and on.
:shock: -------- Are you saying our U.S. arbitrators/ Courts are Corrupt?-------- Noooo!!!?
 

RC has it that there is a deal in the works that will promise much and deliver little.

If the RC is true, so is the following:

Following past practice, the TWU will represent the details in a light never agreed to by AA by the inclusion of intent language(signed by both parties) for each article in the TA.

There will be inadequate language which will fail to fulfill the representations given by the TWU before you vote in the contract. The TWU will claim that it was not the failure of the TWU to negotiate adequate language: the losses in Arbitration, and possibly the Courts System, will be due to corruption beyond the control of the TWU.

The contract you vote on will not contain pre-bankruptcy Sect. 1113 language covering the entire CBA, or preferrably, each and every individual article of the collective bargaining agreement.

The contract you vote on will not contain a clause which securitizes any shortfunding,(Company Measurement versus PGBC Measurement), of your Defined Pension Benefit plan against the value of the aircraft American Airlines brings online during the course of the collective bargaining agreement. The only acceptable securitization of such a shortfall (Enhanced Equipment Trust Certificate or EETC) is, for easiest terms, a Mechanics Lien against aircraft which allows them to be sold and the proceeds placed into the DBP plans until they are fully funded. Of course, these promises are worthless unless they are independently covered by a Sect. 1113 letter obligating the Company to comply even in the event of a merger, takeover, bankruptcy or liquidation.

In Tulsa terms, they will sell you the proverbial "pig-in-a-poke," and it will be bought hook line and snout.
 
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