TWU/IAM Members: How Long Will Negotiations Take?

[Worldport]

Right on schedule for a late summer 2016 JCBA.

I say around May, no doubt the association's follies of last year cost us (both AMT+FSC) thousands of dollars

 

[WeAAsles]

Complex task? Am I suppose to feel for them because they made it complex with the scam association? Enjoy the rest of the winter, spring and summer with our current pay and concessions because I feel nothing substantial is going to happen unless they rush into more concessions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqi_aID1_pg

 

[WeAAsles]

I say around May, no doubt the association's follies of last year cost us (both AMT+FSC) thousands of dollars

If our Unions had secured a deal say a year ago, we (Fleet) would have been locked in at $26.50 per hour instead of staring at almost $29.50 per hour. On a potential 5 year deal how much money would you guess we would have lost not even factoring in compounding yearly raises and contributions to our 401k?

The FA's asked the company to match the DL rates and were told no, that they already had a contract and will have to wait for UAL to get a deal before their contract language triggers an adjustment.

 

 

[Worldport]

If our Unions had secured a deal say a year ago, we (Fleet) would have been locked in at $26.50 per hour instead of staring at almost $29.50 per hour. On a potential 5 year deal how much money would you guess we would have lost not even factoring in compounding yearly raises and contributions to our 401k?

The FA's asked the company to match the DL rates and were told no, that they already had a contract and will have to wait for UAL to get a deal before their contract language triggers an adjustment.

 

If we settled about the time that PS did we at fleet would be at least $5000  richer than we are going to be.That's if we settle by May. So should we wait for July to see what DL is going to get? And so on and so on.......

 

[skinvalve]

The Committee issued a comprehensive proposal to the Company regarding "Fitness for Duty".  What is that?

 

[Deleted member 14439]

I say around May, no doubt the association's follies of last year cost us (both AMT+FSC) thousands of dollars

I`m thinking late summer. The delay rests squarely at the feet of the AFL-CIO. The IAM and TWU were too worried about losing dues. If they truly were interested in their memberships, they would have held a vote and honored that. No, instead this unholy, unelected and unaccountable association was formed against the memberships wishes. Solely to preserve the dues flow into these two "unions".

 

[conehead777]

The Committee issued a comprehensive proposal to the Company regarding "Fitness for Duty".  What is that?

where did you see that at

 

[skinvalve]

Today's update under mech and related. Noted statement regarding Fitness for duty. Nothing I ever heard of, or could not find in the IAM or TWU CBA. Something new? Anyone have any info on what the proposal is about?

 

[saywhat]

Today's update under mech and related. Noted statement regarding Fitness for duty. Nothing I ever heard of, or could not find in the IAM or TWU CBA. Something new? Anyone have any info on what the proposal is about?

Article 39 in TWU fsc cba.

 

[conehead777]

Today's update under mech and related. Noted statement regarding Fitness for duty. Nothing I ever heard of, or could not find in the IAM or TWU CBA. Something new? Anyone have any info on what the proposal is about?

thanks see it now never herd of it either

 

[ATD]

it is article 39 in the Twu agreement.

 

[ATD]

started on the easy stuff first, idiots should have stated on the hard stuff first: PAY, BENFITS then all other bs in the contrct. the TWU contrct  has more bs in it then there needs to be. Contrct should be 1/3 the size it is. We have a bunch of nitwitts running the show IAM/TWU. We also have many of our union brothers and sisters that are afraid of loosing their job with AA because they will never be able to find such a good thing even at half the pay.

 

[700UW]

Idiots?

Have you ever been in or on a negotiating committee?

I have twice.

You don't start wIth the hardest items as they will take the longest and you won't make progress.

Pay and Scope are the two hardest and longest issues to tackle

 

[1AA]

Idiots?
Have you ever been in or on a negotiating committee?
I have twice.
You don't start wIth the hardest items as they will take the longest and you won't make progress.
Pay and Scope are the two hardest and longest issues to tackle

There you go again calling people idiots. You know this topic is about twu/iam members. Your neither and yet you butt in and start insulting people.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Idiots?
Have you ever been in or on a negotiating committee?
I have twice.
You don't start wIth the hardest items as they will take the longest and you won't make progress.
Pay and Scope are the two hardest and longest issues to tackle

Agreed.

Any experienced negotiators know that in the areas of common interests and goals, you get some small agreements to get some progress.

I sincerely hope they are using interest based bargaining for the process.