- Banned
- #31
That was your choice to go fly the brazilian barbie jet.
And let me explain this to you one more time.
The IAM is willing to work within the current CBA to show the company how to save money. Numerous ideas were given to the company back in March and no response was given by the company.
Explain to me why should the IAM trust the company when they have violated our contract and every contract on the property, the very same contracts that management has agreed to?
Explain to me why anyone should give back when this management has shown they squandered $4 billion in concessions and givebacks from the employees and the vendors?
Explain to me why anyone should give back when this management has not shown any interest in generating revenue, instead they try to turn a profit by eliminating thousands of jobs and devastate the few remaining employees they want?
The company's transformation plan is to wipe out maintenance except for about 800 mechanics.
That would mean elimination of 1,008 utility, 300+ stock clerks and between 2,009 and 2,500 mechanics. Can you understand that now?
They want to farmout everything and anything except line maintenance.
And you forget your own union sold you out by agreeing to slave wages for flying a 72 seat airplane. I believe the F28 rates were $30,000 higher for a 63 or 68 seater depending if it was a 1000 or 4000.
You only have 8 years, do you know to hold a job as a mechanic you need at least 13 years and the same goes for utility?
There are employees with 10 to 12 years on layoff, so your piddly 8 years will get no sympathy from me.
But I am glad to see your that your attitude follows the thought of the mainline pilots who don't care about anyone else except themselves.
No one else got J4Js ability and now since the company can place 70+ seaters at Mesa there will be no expansion for them at MidAtlantic.
There are 20+ year employees who had their salary reduced to $13.01 an hour working at mainline express.
And I will give you one more sentenance of advice why don't you worry about your MDA ALPA and let the grown men and women of the IAM make their own decisions and let them excercise their democratic right to make a choice. You might not like the choices they made, but no one told ALPA how to deal with the company and you should show the other unions the same respect.
Funny, with every post you sound more and more like a certain Airbus pilot.
And this is not a IAM vs AMFA issues, so that is totally irrelavant. Especially when the AMFA Director is in the New York Times telling the whole world it is time to gut their pensions. And the IAM is the only union at UAL trying to save their member's pension.
Oh by the way the judge does not determine your wages, benefits and working conditions, the company sets that forth in a motion before the court only if the judge rules in favor of an abrogation, after he has to order the company and union to negoitate for a minimum of 30 days.
And like I have told you the mechanics have no bearing on what other IAM represented groups make. You once again fail to address how does the IAM represented Reservations and Customer Service Agents are the highest paid in the industry when the mechanics at WN are AMFA?
And I guess you left the part out at Eastern that the ALPA represented Pilots and the TWU represented Flight Attendants also went on strike at the same time as the IAM. Convient memory?
When you can answer the questions with facts and not your opinions I will be eagerly awaiting your response.
And let me explain this to you one more time.
The IAM is willing to work within the current CBA to show the company how to save money. Numerous ideas were given to the company back in March and no response was given by the company.
Explain to me why should the IAM trust the company when they have violated our contract and every contract on the property, the very same contracts that management has agreed to?
Explain to me why anyone should give back when this management has shown they squandered $4 billion in concessions and givebacks from the employees and the vendors?
Explain to me why anyone should give back when this management has not shown any interest in generating revenue, instead they try to turn a profit by eliminating thousands of jobs and devastate the few remaining employees they want?
The company's transformation plan is to wipe out maintenance except for about 800 mechanics.
That would mean elimination of 1,008 utility, 300+ stock clerks and between 2,009 and 2,500 mechanics. Can you understand that now?
They want to farmout everything and anything except line maintenance.
And you forget your own union sold you out by agreeing to slave wages for flying a 72 seat airplane. I believe the F28 rates were $30,000 higher for a 63 or 68 seater depending if it was a 1000 or 4000.
You only have 8 years, do you know to hold a job as a mechanic you need at least 13 years and the same goes for utility?
There are employees with 10 to 12 years on layoff, so your piddly 8 years will get no sympathy from me.
But I am glad to see your that your attitude follows the thought of the mainline pilots who don't care about anyone else except themselves.
No one else got J4Js ability and now since the company can place 70+ seaters at Mesa there will be no expansion for them at MidAtlantic.
There are 20+ year employees who had their salary reduced to $13.01 an hour working at mainline express.
And I will give you one more sentenance of advice why don't you worry about your MDA ALPA and let the grown men and women of the IAM make their own decisions and let them excercise their democratic right to make a choice. You might not like the choices they made, but no one told ALPA how to deal with the company and you should show the other unions the same respect.
Funny, with every post you sound more and more like a certain Airbus pilot.
And this is not a IAM vs AMFA issues, so that is totally irrelavant. Especially when the AMFA Director is in the New York Times telling the whole world it is time to gut their pensions. And the IAM is the only union at UAL trying to save their member's pension.
Oh by the way the judge does not determine your wages, benefits and working conditions, the company sets that forth in a motion before the court only if the judge rules in favor of an abrogation, after he has to order the company and union to negoitate for a minimum of 30 days.
And like I have told you the mechanics have no bearing on what other IAM represented groups make. You once again fail to address how does the IAM represented Reservations and Customer Service Agents are the highest paid in the industry when the mechanics at WN are AMFA?
And I guess you left the part out at Eastern that the ALPA represented Pilots and the TWU represented Flight Attendants also went on strike at the same time as the IAM. Convient memory?
When you can answer the questions with facts and not your opinions I will be eagerly awaiting your response.
