reserves f/a's are sitting in phl

i totally agree. rotating reserve would be a great idea. and pit ,your right . i could pick up etb trips. but that's on my days off. i would like to be home with my family on my days off. as would everyone else. why do they need 300 reserves on duty all at once? it just doesen't make sense to me. but then again, what does in this company?

Ask a c/s supervisor to be released early.

As an aside, West has the LTO system too along with the ETB. May imply that our merger this year with AWA may have been in the works back in 2002 during our winter negotiations. Of course, Jerry G and Tracy C. came from AWA and negotiated LTO for AWA back in 1999 when Bill Franke was CEO.
 
When commuting to PHL the other day I was listening to these old goats talking about how they were able to drop this and that and only had to fly this many hours for the month.

Sky high states: Imagine that. Alittle FLEXIBILITY left in this job! You want that taken AWAY TOO? JUNIOR, SENIOR, never, everrrrrrrr complain about what BENEFITS your work group!



Old goat only stating an opinion!
 
Obviously, this means they have reduced flying time in PHL. Maybe this will help with all PHLs problems....naaaaah probably not.

It won't....there is a lot of open time around Thanksgiving and Christmas next month....why they just don't build more lines to cover this time is absolutely amazing, especially around the holidays. You'd think they would learn by now! B)
 
That became a catchphrase on one trip. Every instance of stupidity was greeted with "You'd think..."

You know this is a perfect setup for another Holiday fiasco with trip coverage....and again the easy way out of this is to blame the F/A's for excessive sick calls when the trips were never covered to begin with. BTW, another 170 or so F/A's are leaving the company on December 2nd on the last of the buy-outs for 2005.
 
The reserves in the bigger bases have more ETB trips available than the smaller bases that they can pick up. Are you saying you can't get an ETB trip to get a higher pay for the month than guarantee?

Pitbull,

If one is sitting in a crash pad, the last thing we should have to do is work on our days off so the blockholders can AGAIN get whatever they want. Unbelievable!!!
 
Twice,

Get whatever they want??? Your kidding, right??????

The lineholders touch weekends no matter what if their trip falls on Sat or Sun or BOTH. NO getting around that and no trip improving to get out of it.

Christmas falls on a weekend. So, don't start implying that lineholders are just skating....
 
Twice,

Get whatever they want??? Your kidding, right??????

The lineholders touch weekends no matter what if their trip falls on Sat or Sun or BOTH. NO getting around that and no trip improving to get out of it.

Christmas falls on a weekend. So, don't start implying that lineholders are just skating....
Let's just get something straight here. The ETB was not put in place to benefit any reserve F/A. It was put in place so that Lineholders can drop trips without being responsible for the time. After all the options were dropped and everyone was expected to fly 85-95 hours, they put the new system in place. That way, lineholders could drop down to 50 hours again. Also, lineholders do not have to touch weekends, if their trips are picked up off the ETB by someone. The sad benefit of all this is that a reserve F/A has to give up their days off in order to get the time they should be getting on their days on. This system was designed to work with Pref. Bid, they were supposed to complement each other, however, our union does not want Pref. Bid, so reserves got stuck with only half of the equation. We are hearing alot about the company wanting to make the ETB trips, pay credit, I'll tell you what, if they do there are going to be alot of lineholders flying 85-95 hours, because no reserve is going to give up their days off for pay credit. So all you lineholders, call your union reps and let them know you are not for this. We reserves thank you.
 
Twice,

Get whatever they want??? Your kidding, right??????

The lineholders touch weekends no matter what if their trip falls on Sat or Sun or BOTH. NO getting around that and no trip improving to get out of it.

Christmas falls on a weekend. So, don't start implying that lineholders are just skating....


I will GLADLY take their block so that they can sit a PRISONER of the company all month if they have it so so bad. No comparison Pitbull. They have life by the balls compared to the reserves.
 

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