I am saying I want to be a BH tomorrow. By the way, RSV in CLT is 17+ years, not 13+ years. Haven't you figured it out yet. RSV are only here to fly the trips BH don't want. If a BH doesn't want to work, we have RSV's to do it. Oh, and we do some IRR Ops flying also. That's how it's always been. We have a great union who is more than willing to assist the company with problems those damn RSV's might be causing. Be careful, they might give your RSV override back(that's right, they already did), they might promise you Pref. Bid and not put in place(that's right, they already did), See a pattern here. I love to hear BH's say to me, "we all have taken cuts". Kiss my ass and bid RSV then, sister. Let's put in a rotating RSV system and see what starts happening. I'll bet our union won't let that happen. No freakin way.
PHL Reserve F/A's...it's time to ACT!
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I think its time for another buyout or layoffs. I figured by this time all FA would be getting a chance for recall but looks like it aint happening.
Isn't that the damn truth!! I use to joke that it would be probably 10 years (going from after first round of layoffs in 01) before all reserves would be called back. Well guess what.... we are coming up on the 6th year and it
doesn't look any better now than it did then :down:
Who would have ever thought!!!
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You are correct, that is not the answer. I was just venting. It is not meant to be taken seriously. No one is planning any "sick outs".
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The AIL needs to go!! Preferential bidding should have been put into place before the LTO reserve system was. The definition by webster Reserve (ri zurv') to keep back, store up, or set apart for later use or for some special purpose. A reserve f/a should be just that used for last minute sick calls and irregular operations. Reserve f/a should not have to sit for years in hopes of picking up the blockholder's leftovers. The union wants us all to come together to picket. I say the reserves need to come together and boycott the ETB. It is not the pax fault nor do they care about our work conditons. We as a work group that has been forgotten and left behind time and time again need to take it upon ourselves to do something that will get us noticed. What would happen if the reserves didn't touch the ETB for lets say Nov. and Dec.? How would the blockholders and the union react when they have to fly their block?
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BUYOUT not layoff!!
There is no reason why you can't recall all reserves back that might barely make 20K year and get rid of topped out BH that make about 50Kish and offer them 30K to get out. Why do you have to have one foot in the grave to have a decent life around here??
The problem here is that P.K. in Inflight Admin does not know how to staff the department. He never has. Who's fault do you think the lack of Inflight Staffing in the Dec meltdown was? P.K.
As a PHL Rsv, it makes me so mad that the incompetence of this man is allowed to continue. He can't stand flight attendants, has no compassion towards them and he does not care about the reserve flight attendants way of life. The easy thing to do is not to offer any leaves of abscence for December for the potential problems over Christmas. God forbid he looks at the rest of the month and see the implication of how not offering leaves effects the lives of the reserve flight attendants in PHL. Time to clean house in Inflight Management. Start with P.K.
As a PHL Rsv, it makes me so mad that the incompetence of this man is allowed to continue. He can't stand flight attendants, has no compassion towards them and he does not care about the reserve flight attendants way of life. The easy thing to do is not to offer any leaves of abscence for December for the potential problems over Christmas. God forbid he looks at the rest of the month and see the implication of how not offering leaves effects the lives of the reserve flight attendants in PHL. Time to clean house in Inflight Management. Start with P.K.
Thats a great idea, but in a base like PIT, they will allow TWOP's everyday, so those trips will then become company time for the reserves. The blockholder will still be able to reduce their OBL. PHL would be hard to TWOP everyday, but the blockholders will start screaming, so the union will bend over backwards to get the company to allow TWOPs so they will have more flexibilty. Then the company will realize, they can twop and turn that time into company time for a reserve rather then the ETB paid above guarantee. Talk about cost effective....think about it.
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Why is most airlines block holding time so much shorter than US. Friends at UA are holding lines after six months and CO after two years. Imagine being on reserve for 15 to 20 yrs that a 20-25 thousand a year job when your close to fifty. That sucks and is probally why the company does it. Same cookie jar just different hands.
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They will still continue to give false hope. Just like they did with Mid-Atlantic, Going out west and the three recalls that never happened. There still throwing us under the bus and were not even on the property.
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I/we feel for you. It hasn't been a bed of roses working either. I think at this point the only thing we can look forward to is the integration and HOPE/PRAY that things will get much better then.
I can't see them going with our system as it is too costly.
As I said in a previous post. This system wouldn't be "that bad" if it were only a year of two.
Hang in there!
You might want to check your UA data and expand your sample for accuracy. At the couple of bases that have received new hires this year, of course reserve time is down sharply. However, at the other bases, people measure reserve time in multiple years and, in some cases, in decades (especially SEA, HNL, usually DEN).
Granted, it is a rotating reserve at UA, so you are only on reserve every other month after the first five years, but to imply that six months on reserve is some sort of average or normal at UA is not true at most bases.
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I still say that AA has the BEST reserve system of all. We are one-on-one-off for the first 3 years, then you only have to serve reserve 3 times/year until you have enough seniority to be off reserve completely.
Off reserve varies from base to base. For instance at SLT (St. Louis, don't ask), reserve for November only goes to 8 years. In the Summer it went up to 11 years. So, we have people who are only serving reserve one or two months per year. I have almost 5 years, and I only have to serve reserve 3 times/year.
At the more senior bases (DFW, ORD, LAX) reserve may go as high as 20+ years some months, but remember it's still only for a maximum of 3 times per year.
Anytime I feel like complaining about reserve, I only have to read about some of the stuff you guys have to put up with. Makes me realize how lucky I am.
Oh, I meant to mention also that when someone puts a trip out on our drop/trade board (we call it HIBOARD), it's strictly first-come-first-served. No one can restrict who picks up their trip.
N965VJ
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Prior to LTO, RSV at US was actually not too bad.
Either that or I just became institutionalized after being on it for 10 years.
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Let the blockholders scream. We as reserves have been screaming ever since the LTO system was put in place. When TWOP is allowed at least we as reserves can fly on days we are already working. Have we all forgotten that we can still call out of time once we have flown our 80 hrs? Rather than flying for 6 days and sitting on call for 13 days, we could fly our company time in 15 to 18 days. Does anyone remember what it was like to get a 80+ hr. paycheck and still have days off to have a life?
