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On 1/27/2003 1
33 PM mrplanes wrote:
I posted this under the what is the solution thread:
The question was: What is the solution? Here is the answer:
Dave only has to commit to the pilots that our pension BENEFITS will be no LESS than what he agreed to in LOA 84. Regardless of whether some comes from the PBGC and some from the company. And basically that benefit is very simple. We have earned and will be paid a pension benefit of 50% of our FAE. He agreed to it in December. He has no reason NOT to agree to it now. If it worked then. It must work now. Nothing has changed over that time period. That is how you solve this problem. It's very simple. He lives up to his committment and the problem is solved.
mr
We don't want anyone's sympathy. We are not interested in your retirement benefits, pay, work rules or anything else. What we demand is what Dave agreed to in December. That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. The lump is gone. We agreed to it. So did Dave. 65% of FAE is gone. We agreed to it. So did Dave. Now we fully expect him to live up to his end of the bargain which is spelled out above. whine about pilots all you want. We know where our line is drawn. Plain and simple. This problem is history if Dave does what he already said he would do. I happen to think that he will. But if he does not, everything we have given to this point is moot. He will be finding another place to work just like all of us. That is the harsh reality. We lived up to our end of the bargain. Now it is Dave's turn. I, for one, am done explaining what will happen. I suggest that all pilots do the same. This is our fight and ours alone. What anyone other than the U pilots think of it is irrelavent.
mr
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Mrplane,
I happen to agree with you! It's time a union collectively stood up to this management. Taking the "view" as a unionist, and a group that has a defined pension, the pilots did give way more then what the co. needed. And, the pilots agreed to help this company at all cost to themselves to SAVE their pensions. Can't bad mouth any group for that. All this, outside of "section 6" to boot. I know you do not concern yourself with what other groups think, but, this "chest thumping" unionist will support the pilots, cause folks we will be next. Rest assured, this management team is watching this board, and they love to see one group go against another. Their contempt "breeds" on our blantant division, and the "union busters" put a check mark in that column.
At this point, we are all looking at a 5% reduction in the next couple months with this IRAQI situation, with those kinds of reduced wages from all groups, I do NOT believe this company will have the CONTRIBUTION PROBLEMS THEY CLAIM THEY WILL HAVE TODAY. The world will not stop if USA goes to war, and businesses will run and people will fly. THAT IS HOW OUR COUNTRY'S ECONOMY RUNS! kEEP THIS IN MIND, just a modest improvement to our economy...CHANGES EVERYTHING!
37 PM A320 Driver wrote: 
