IAM Stepping Up campaign

[Kev3188]

 

Did you vote on why some DL employees got a 2% raise while others got a 3% raise?

While we're at it, how is that even close to fair?
 
 

Do you have scope language?

Nope.
 

Why are mainline DL ramp working flights at LGA, while the DL flights at MAT are outsourced?

Better yet, why *aren't* aren't M/L ramp employees working in places like MIA, CLT, and RDU?

 

[700UW]

Effective Date of Signing (DOS): 9.53% increase to top of scale base rate.

Effective (DOS): 3% increase to base rate of all other steps.

Effective 9/12/2014: 2.1% increase to base rate at all steps.

Effective 9/12/2015: 2.1% increase to base rate of pay to all steps or the Industry Pay Rate Adjustment whichever is greater; the result of which may not exceed the rate at the same step on the LAA (Legacy American Airlines) scale (following the LAA adjustment). Since steps 10 & 11 of the LUS (Legacy US Airways) scale have no comparator LAA step, the percentage increase derived from the top of scale adjustment will apply to these steps

Effective 9/12/2016: In the event that a Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA) has not been reached for the fleet service classification at American Airlines, base wage rates will be increased by 2.1% and the amendable date of the contract will be extended one (1) year.

Effective 9/12/2017: In the event that a Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA) has not been reached for the fleet service classification at American Airlines, base wage rates will be increased by 2.1% and the amendable date of the contract will be extended one (1) year.
 

If ratified this is all guaranteed, what at DL is guaranteed?

 

[700UW]

DL has a pretty big operation at CLT with the PMNW and PMDL combined operation.
 
And all the BW wing is outsourced.
 
Kevin,
 
Do you know how many flights a day in CLT?
 
And what other cities that have a big operation that is outsourced?
 
And does DL have this for their employees in writing?
 

 

[Kev3188]

RDU & CLT are the two biggest w/o mainline ramp... CLT has about 28-29 (ish) average daily departures...

 

[737823]

RDU & CLT are the two biggest w/o mainline ramp... CLT has about 28-29 (ish) average daily departures...

 
I thought you said before MIA was.  Does MIA have the most mainline operations but is still contracted?  Remember:
 
 

Like I said no airline has ramp or mechanics at every single city they fly into.

 

 
 
Besides CLT has never been an important station for DL.  No SkyClub, no crew base, no international flying, they fly mostly DCI and MD-88/90, never been a key market for DL.
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

But they do at their larger stations now, dont they?

 

[737823]

But they do at their larger stations now, dont they?

 
Yeah larger cities that matter DL.  Like I said CLT:
Doesn't have a SkyClub
Doesn't have a crew base
Doesn't have non-hub flying
Doesn't have international flying
And mostly sees MD-88/90 and DCI
 
It's clear CLT isn't a strategic market for DL.  Why is it a surprise they don't have ramp service?  Why doesn't US have mainline ramp at AUS, JFK, SAT, or STL but AA does?
 
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/55064-feb-mar-2013-iam-fleet-service-discussions/?p=978976
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

 
Yeah larger cities that matter DL.  Like I said CLT:
Doesn't have a SkyClub
Doesn't have a crew base
Doesn't have non-hub flying
Doesn't have international flying
And mostly sees MD-88/90 and DCI
 
It's clear CLT isn't a strategic market for DL.  Why is it a surprise they don't have ramp service?  Why doesn't US have mainline ramp at AUS, JFK, SAT, or STL but AA does?
 
Josh

They see A320s and the past two weeks they have been flying a 757 to ATL.
 
The Stations you listed for US are all small stations for US, so why dont you ask Robert Isom about that?
 
And you can say that about almost every city for DL except the hubs and focus cities, now cant you?
 
So once again you fail at your lame attempt, its not about US, this is about DL now isnt it?
 
And how many cities does DL fly into in the US?  Worldwide they only have 34 clubs.

 

[Kev3188]

 

I thought you said before MIA was. Does MIA have the most mainline operations but is still contracted?

All 3 are more than large enough operations to justify insourcing.   

 

[737823]

They see A320s and the past two weeks they have been flying a 757 to ATL.
 
The Stations you listed for US are all small stations for US, so why dont you ask Robert Isom about that?
 
And you can say that about almost every city for DL except the hubs and focus cities, now cant you?
 
So once again you fail at your lame attempt, its not about US, this is about DL now isnt it?
 
And how many cities does DL fly into in the US?  Worldwide they only have 34 clubs.

 
Notice I said mostly MD-88/90, wow big deal they get a few old NW 320 and 757s.
 
BOS has non-hub flying for DL, as does RDU and other cities.  
 
CLT is a small station for DL, you justify your IAM not having fleet service at US stations that way so why not for DL?
 
DL has more than 34 club, ATL alone has nine clubs, DTW has four.  They may 34 cities with clubs, but not 34 club locations. 
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

28 flights a day is not a small station.

 

[737823]

28 flights a day is not a small station.

 
Mostly on DCI and MD-88s, yes.  Compared to BOS, FLL, MCO, SFO, TPA and other non-hub stations CLT is a very small station for DL.
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

So are you calling Kevin a liar?
 
He stated, and yes he works for DL not you, that CLT, RDU and MIA are the three largest stations that are outsourced belong the wing.
 
The cities you list, have nothing to do with the conversation.
 
DL has five or six gates in CLT.

 

[737823]

So are you calling Kevin a liar?
 
He stated, and yes he works for DL not you, that CLT, RDU and MIA are the three largest stations that are outsourced belong the wing.
 
The cities you list, have nothing to do with the conversation.
 
DL has five or six gates in CLT.

 
Still a small station.  And DL has 15 in BOS.  Not sure how many in FLL, SFO, TPA but I imagine more than six. Why is it okay for the IAM to not staff small stations but then you attack DL for not staffing XYZ location?
 
Josh

 

[737823]

If Kev's list is still accurate:
 
 

At the time of the merger, DL had 12-or 13 ramps staffed with mainline employees. NW had 40. They are all still staffed today. They (combined) are:

MSP/MEM/IND/LGA/ORD/LAX/JFK/MSN/MDW/GRR/PHL/FLL/TPA/PHX/SJU/CVG/SLC/MSY/FNT/GRB
/MCO/MKE/DCA/LAS/SEA/ATL/BOS/EWR/MCI/BNA/DEN/DFW/BWI/SFO/IAH/DTW/HNL/IAD/PDX/ANC/
STL/CMH/RSW

SLC/CVG/SJU were staffed by DL, but not NW pre merger.

Post merger, DL (re)opened 7 stations to it's employees. IIRC, they are: ORD, SFO, RSW, PHX, PDX, SEA and 1 that escape me (LAS???) . At any rate, they were all staffed with NW employees. IOW, there has been no new locations staffed post merger.

 

 
 
Are you saying places like GRB, HNL, MCI, MDW, MKE, MSN, and RSW aren't small stations? To me they seem small and its great DL still has them staffed.  But of course to you the world revolves around CLT so DL should staff that station to suit your fancy. 
 
Josh