IAM Stepping Up campaign
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yoyodyne
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And they took the private Jet on the way there...737823 said:
yoyodyne
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Sorry 700, I believe the Nobel is out of the picture, I haven't taken the union seminars yet...700UW said:
Kev3188
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700UW said:
When you distill it down, the above pretty much sums it up. Some may be willing to settle for that. Others refuse to lower their expectations, and are working for positive change.
yoyodyne
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And the dribble about the "facts in the way"...737823 said:
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except that DL employees, IN PRACTICE, have better real scope protection despite the fact that it isn't in the contract you seem to think provides security.
Please give us a list of stations that DL above and below wing employees are in now vs 5 years ago and also do the same for each of the other big 4.
Now tell us what DOT stats show regarding the total amount of revenue spent on outsourcing vs total maintenance spend. DL mechanics are better positioned relative to their competitors WRT outsourcing and DL is still number 2 behind native AA despite the huge amount of cabin refurbs that DL has done, most of which have been outsourced.
And unlike any of DL's US competitors, DL has a huge MRO which provides jobs to DL employees and offsets a major part of the airframe outsourcing that DL does do.
DO you realize that DL gets close to $500M in revenue from maintenance INSOURCING which equates to about 20-25% of all that DL spends to maintain its own fleet?
that makes DL's net outsourcing figure somewhere around 20-25%, as good as AA has been in the past.
No one is going to be swayed by a piece of paper that simply doesn't translate into real protections or advantages.
Add in that DL's competitors are dramatically increasing their outsourcing in multiple areas of their companies and it is even harder to argue that they have something that DL employees want.
my offer was and still is that I will leave the representation discussions to ACTIVE DL employees IF and only if all of the other non-DL employees also leave the discussion.
Since that has happened, I am still here and will continue to participate
Kev3188
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Won't ever happen. He can't help himself.eolesen said:
Um, no. it doesn't exist. Not "in practice," and not in a CBA.WorldTraveler said:
It's the same 43 that were there at merger time. Now tell us how many were brought to the table as a direct result of the CBA at NW? How many ramps did DL bring to the party? When you're done listing those- it won't take long; it's a short list- tell us more about how many have been insourced since '08. With all the talk from West & Co. about it, surely there were some, right?
Help me out here: Are you referring to the Rules of The Road, The Way We Fly, or the ever changing HRPM?
yoyodyne
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No please don't. Humor is the best medicine737823 said:
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