IAM Stepping Up campaign
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and yet you can't seem to grasp (yes, I did) that there is more to maintenance than heavy airframe overhauls.
I'm using the statistic that is used for measuring outsourcing not just in the industry but in any comparison of the value of work - MONEY.
but, hey, the DOL and IRS call a defined contribution a pension despite your definition.
I'm using the statistic that is used for measuring outsourcing not just in the industry but in any comparison of the value of work - MONEY.
but, hey, the DOL and IRS call a defined contribution a pension despite your definition.
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yes wt you cannot grasp the fact delta would rather have send their planes to foreign land out of faa oversight and have foreigners do the work on their planes you are a piece of work man
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No, I actually do get that DL outsourced maintenance and has its own inspectors at foreign maintenance centers.
But you and 700 want to focus on one small part of the maintenance operation while failing to admit that the IAM allowed far more TOTAL outsourcing and that 700's narrow definition only serves to protect him from the criticism that he/the IAM failed to provide real job protection.
DL mechanics, with no union, not only do more of DL's TOTAL work in house but also do a significant amount of outsourcing that amounts to between 20 and 25% of all of the maintenance that DL does on its own aircraft.
You are free to continue to beat this drum as long as you want... it just gives me the opportunity to show that DL mechanics do more of the work based on value of DL's maintenance and still have insourcing opportunities to boot.
It might be why they have consistently been one of the workgroups at DL who is least interested in seeking union representation.
Josh,
700 doesn't deal in facts... he is driven by emotion and mud throwing... .and then can't figure out why DL employees aren't willing to give their Money to unions.
But you and 700 want to focus on one small part of the maintenance operation while failing to admit that the IAM allowed far more TOTAL outsourcing and that 700's narrow definition only serves to protect him from the criticism that he/the IAM failed to provide real job protection.
DL mechanics, with no union, not only do more of DL's TOTAL work in house but also do a significant amount of outsourcing that amounts to between 20 and 25% of all of the maintenance that DL does on its own aircraft.
You are free to continue to beat this drum as long as you want... it just gives me the opportunity to show that DL mechanics do more of the work based on value of DL's maintenance and still have insourcing opportunities to boot.
It might be why they have consistently been one of the workgroups at DL who is least interested in seeking union representation.
Josh,
700 doesn't deal in facts... he is driven by emotion and mud throwing... .and then can't figure out why DL employees aren't willing to give their Money to unions.
US doesnt have rock bottom payrates, we never agreed to a CBA in Chapter 11 and there was a transition agreement negotiated in 2008, which I wasnt part of.
So mr j morgan liar, keep up the misinformation and lies, its your M.O.
Yep you are just a "passenger"
And DL is non-union, the have no scope language and are employees at will.
Did they negotiate their 2% or 3% raise, nope, DL does what it wants.
They financed their own raise, lol
And DL uses DGS mechanics at TOC, OUTSOURCING at its finest.
And DL can pay them $50 an hour, but if the planes are all over the world getting overhauled and not in ATL their pay means nothing.
So mr j morgan liar, keep up the misinformation and lies, its your M.O.
Yep you are just a "passenger"
And DL is non-union, the have no scope language and are employees at will.
Did they negotiate their 2% or 3% raise, nope, DL does what it wants.
They financed their own raise, lol
And DL uses DGS mechanics at TOC, OUTSOURCING at its finest.
And DL can pay them $50 an hour, but if the planes are all over the world getting overhauled and not in ATL their pay means nothing.
Good DL is non-union they aren't buying into the IAM scam union and throwing money at Buffy, Ira, Sito, etc. You seriously think the IAM does them a favor just for allowing them to pay dues and should expect nothing in return. You fail to recognize that you had a role in the concessions yet you keep boasting about how great an agreement and what an expert you are.
Josh
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Dont forget those pesky pilots at DL are union as are the dispatchers, you know the people that make your flight plan and fuel load.
And you are flying on aircraft that are overhauled in China, Singapore and all over the world except ATL.
Oh and those so called MROs, dont have to have all the people working on the planes to be licensed mechanics, which at MROs are the minority of the workforce and not subject to DRUG TESTING, like a US based AMT.
So you know what, go fly DL and be happy.
Of you can fly Spirit as they are planning on moving their operation from FLL to MIA, and then you will see what an ULCC is all about.
Nothing in return?
Ask Kevin, how well he did in Chapter 11 compared to a PMDL non-union ramper.
And you are flying on aircraft that are overhauled in China, Singapore and all over the world except ATL.
Oh and those so called MROs, dont have to have all the people working on the planes to be licensed mechanics, which at MROs are the minority of the workforce and not subject to DRUG TESTING, like a US based AMT.
So you know what, go fly DL and be happy.
Of you can fly Spirit as they are planning on moving their operation from FLL to MIA, and then you will see what an ULCC is all about.
Nothing in return?
Ask Kevin, how well he did in Chapter 11 compared to a PMDL non-union ramper.
US has its A330s or 767s if they are farmed out done in Mobile, AL.
Some of the 320 family because of the HP merger are done in SAL.
And actually over 50% of the overhauls are done by US mechanics.
So keep up the misinformation, and I will call you out EVERY single time, yet you keep up the lies and misinformation and only make yourself look like the fool you truly are.
Some of the 320 family because of the HP merger are done in SAL.
And actually over 50% of the overhauls are done by US mechanics.
So keep up the misinformation, and I will call you out EVERY single time, yet you keep up the lies and misinformation and only make yourself look like the fool you truly are.
Why do you constantly lie?
Do you understand what a contract abrogation is?
Apparently not.
US and the IAM NEVER reached an agreement in Chapter 11 and had the CBA ABROGATED.
So if you want to keep lying, you are only making yourself look stupid.
Do you understand what a contract abrogation is?
Apparently not.
US and the IAM NEVER reached an agreement in Chapter 11 and had the CBA ABROGATED.
So if you want to keep lying, you are only making yourself look stupid.
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LOL, so what good did the union do, but keep the member's dues...700UW said:
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