IAM Stepping Up campaign

[robbedagain]

I already know as does 700 that this is an open forum.  in fact I do believe 700 has repeatedly stated that numerous times.     WT once again you are flat out wrong.  I have never said its a one sided thing   you on the other need to go look for a post where I said that.  I just happen to wish that all DL folks in the current IAM card drive to have a very successful outcome in becoming union so that they can have a say in matters.   It is you WT that has some real serious issues  plain n simple.   While Southwind and I have our differences  that person at least has heard my side just as I have heard Southwind's side. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

then if it is an open forum, then lay off your comments that someone else is a retiree, has no business participating, and knows nothing while you do even though you have never worked for DL.

It isn't too hard for most people to figure out that if you want to have a place at the table, then be man enough to allow others to do the same.

repeatedly saying this is an open forum but only if you can spout your opinions will get you absolutely nowhere except a whole lot of grief.

the issue with you is that you can't accept that others have just as much of a right to participate in the discussion as you do... or nobody does.

it's not rocket science.

 

[robbedagain]

I can accept things  its you that cant   you love to turn every dam thread into a pro delta is the best

 

[WorldTraveler]

it's not about Delta, robbed.

it's about you and 700 having this deep-seated need to tell other people they have no place in the conversation but you can be there.

fix that problem and we'll get along fine.

either we are all here to participate in the conversation or I will make sure that your turn at the table will produce none of the fruit you want to enjoy.

 

[robbedagain]

its about DL  not about what you THINK 700 and I say.  You cannot grasp it  that's youre whole problem

 

[WorldTraveler]

fine....and if you and 700 can't grasp that 99% of my problem with you two is your repeated attempts to tell me and others that we can't be a part of the conversation or have a right to speak but you can, then good luck trying to get your message across.

If you would like to challenge my assertions of DL's strengths, do it based on facts and your own personal experience, not what you hear some other DL employee say including on FB.

 

[robbedagain]

neither 700 nor I ever told you you cant be part of squat.  youre problem is you interject every dam thread with dl this dl that dl is the greatest.   guess what  I personally don't care what airline is great  in my own opin every airline is great and not so great   you fail to see where dl makes mistakes too 

 

[WorldTraveler]

doesn't matter what I interject myself in.

and when you say that I am a retiree and don't know what I am talking about, you ARE saying I have no place in the conversation.

Again, deal with the reality that this REALLY is an open forum and you and I and everyone else has an equal right to be here - or none of us do.

you don't get more right to be here because you have more of an inside scoop than someone else.

and someone else's opinion is no less valid because you don't think they have the knowledge which you think they have.

 

[700UW]

And you keep repeating that any of us that pro-union and don't work for DL don't belong in the conversation, hate to tell you this but you don't work for DL either.

 

[WorldTraveler]

tell you what?

when you drop the "you don't work for DL" (and thus don't have any credibility in the discussion), we might have the basis for a conversation.

as long as you continue to say that I or anyone else is limited in our ability to participate in the discussion while you should be free to parrot whatever you want, there will be friction until you choose to end.

take the weekend off and think real hard whether you want to turn over a new leaf.

 

[robbedagain]

may be you should take your own advice too

 

[Kev3188]

 

doesn't matter what I interject myself in.

Actually it does- and that goes for anybody on any thread, really.

When one is insistent on "board domination," the overall site experience suffers.

So how 'bout we all get outta the weeds and on with the show?

 

[700UW]

Robbed,

WT will never get it, he is the one who constantly states we don't work for DL, we are a third party, we are sticking our nose in where it doesn't belong. Can you say Hypocrite?

 

[WorldTraveler]

 
 

Robbed, WT will never get it, he is the one who constantly states we don't work for DL, we are a third party, we are sticking our nose in where it doesn't belong. Can you say Hypocrite?

no, I DO get it... but I am not going to allow you or robbed to ever control a conversation about DL and what its employees need while you tell me to sit on the sidelines.

Actually it does- and that goes for anybody on any thread, really.

When one is insistent on "board domination," the overall site experience suffers.

So how 'bout we all get outta the weeds and on with the show?

yes it goes for everyone.... which is why we have been down this road before only to have 700 and robbed tell me and Josh and others they have no credibility in the conversation but yet they can't handle it when people like southwind repeatedly challenge 700's DOMINANCE of the representation discussion.

Yeah, moving out of the weeds would be great.... can we count on you to call 700 and robbed out if they return to the same "you're retired" or "you're just a customer" lines?

 

[Kev3188]

The first step is to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and just focus on your own actions.