IAM Stepping Up campaign

[WorldTraveler]

if you'd like to go all the way back to deregulation, we can do that.

Given that DL has long had fewer workers who have been paid more than their peers at other airlines, I am confident that it will be shown that DL has laid off fewer workers since deregulation than AA, UA, and US.

you sure you want to go there, esp. since it will be virtually impossible to separate all the subsidiaries that some airlines had in the car and hotel industries?

better yet, we just leave it to DL people to make their own decision.

Why can't you accept that as the best course of action?

 

[737823]

No union or airline has been as instrumental in the walmartization of once proud middle class airline careers than the IAMAW.

Josh

 

[700UW]

Wrong again, the master of misinformation is back. That would have been the TWU back in 83.

 

[737823]

Wrong again, the master of misinformation is back. That would have been the TWU back in 83.

What about the TWU? Topic is the IAM at DL. Important for DL people to understand the IAM's history of concessions and working deals with management to the detriment of their membership like feeding off low wage Air Wisconsin workers while mainline NW and UA personnel got laid off. I can recall the post but summer of 2012 you and Kev went ballistic when an ex-NWA person posted about ZW replacing their entire station.

Josh

 

[700UW]

Blah blah blah.

The TWU started the concession train in 1983 with the B then C- Scale.

 

[737823]

Given the recent topic on the AA forum I think it is appropriate to introduce this discussion on the US forum. If a merger takes place fleet service will need to elect a collective bargaining agent, so a discussion of the concession history and negotiating tactics employed by the IAM is worthwhile.

-During the two bankruptcies at USAir, the IAM facilitated three round of concessions. For fleet service, this was the first concessions after 9/11 and the effects were far reaching to workers at other carriers who either filed later or seeked concessions outside bankruptcy.

-Before the UAL bankruptcy the IAM offered concessions to United, and further concessions were achieved through bankruptcy

-At NWA the IAM readily encouraged their members (w/ full support from the AFL-CIO) to perform the duties of striking AMFA members in the 2005 strike.

-At Hawaiian Airlines, the IAM introduced ready reserve language similar to what non-union Delta Air Lines has in place. The terms are (1) Do not count toward PT cap (2) No benefits except travel (3) Must be full IAM members (4) $10/hour top out

The IAM was decerified by the CO FAs in favor of the AFA, and decertified by a large margin at DL too. Food for thought.

Josh

 

[southwind]

Blah blah blah.
The TWU started the concession train in 1983 with the B then C- Scale.

And it looks like the IAM hopped right on that train...........gotta keep them dues rollin' in!

 

[700UW]

Given the recent topic on the AA forum I think it is appropriate to introduce this discussion on the US forum. If a merger takes place fleet service will need to elect a collective bargaining agent, so a discussion of the concession history and negotiating tactics employed by the IAM is worthwhile.

-During the two bankruptcies at USAir, the IAM facilitated three round of concessions. For fleet service, this was the first concessions after 9/11 and the effects were far reaching to workers at other carriers who either filed later or seeked concessions outside bankruptcy.

-Before the UAL bankruptcy the IAM offered concessions to United, and further concessions were achieved through bankruptcy

-At NWA the IAM readily encouraged their members (w/ full support from the AFL-CIO) to perform the duties of striking AMFA members in the 2005 strike.

-At Hawaiian Airlines, the IAM introduced ready reserve language similar to what non-union Delta Air Lines has in place. The terms are (1) Do not count toward PT cap (2) No benefits except travel (3) Must be full IAM members (4) $10/hour top out

The IAM was decerified by the CO FAs in favor of the AFA, and decertified by a large margin at DL too. Food for thought.

Josh

How stupid are you?
The IAM and the TWU agreed to an alliance.
 
The IAM never facilated any concessions.
 
By law the every union is forced to negotiate or face an abrogation.
 
In the first bankruptcy US threatened to shut down and initated a second Section 1113 C motion.
 
In the second bankruptcy, M&R had our CBA abrogated.
 
Every union in every airline negotiated pre-bankruptcy filings to prevent worse concessions and still have some control over the process.
 
The IAM had language in each CBA that no one had to perform stuck work nor cross a picket line.  The ancillary duties were all ready in the IAM/ESE CBA, and removed from the AMFA CBA.
 
Every member at HA got to vote and ratify the CBA that contained the language, and at US in the new TA Ready Reserve has been eliminated.
 
And PMUA FAs had the numbers, overwhelmingly to vote in the AFA over the IAM and the NMB declared Single Carrier Status.
 
So Josh, aka the liar, why dont you tell the board what airline and union you belong too?
 
Why dont you tell them your history in the airline industry in regards to employment?
 
Oh wait, you claim you work in finance for JP Morgan.
 
Keep up the lies and I will call you out EVERY single time.
 
You have been proven to lie, post misinformation and to be a fraud.

 

[737823]

Indicate where I stated I work for JP Morgan.
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

Stop lying and admit you are.

I have my sources. 
 
And the latest from NYC:
 

 

[700UW]

And another:

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

The IAM had language in each CBA that no one had to perform stuck work nor cross a picket line.  The ancillary duties were all ready in the IAM/ESE CBA, and removed from the AMFA CBA.
 

 
The language you reference, from the NWA AMFA CBA, was removed after AMFA went on strike.
 
The IAM crossed AMFAs picket line and performed that struck work.

 

[700UW]

Go ask Kevin about that.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Go look in the mirror while defending that.

Why don't you and Josh waste another few hundred posts regurgitating your same crap again instead.

 

[robbedagain]

Glenn how cld nwa remove language? Or did they abrogate it during ch 11?