IAM Stepping Up campaign

[WeAAsles]

What are the percentages of Ready Reserve to Full Time employees?

Oh WOW isn't this a big one? In the new IAM TA Ready Reserve is GONE. It will no longer exist. A person will know what their actual hours are and if he has to can have a second job without having to worry about being called to work by the airline.

 

[700UW]

And DL they get one raise I think, I will have to ask Kevin to be sure.

 

[700UW]

Hey Southwind, here is your quality non-union work in SC at its best:
 
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2023913654_boeing787productionxml.html?syndication=rss
 

 
According to employees, when mechanics removed the cradles that held the rear fuselage in place on Dreamliner No. 214 — destined for Royal Jordanian Airways — nearly 100 improperly installed fasteners clattered to the factory floor.
 
A subsequent inspection found the South Carolina team in Everett had installed hundreds of temporary fasteners near the join between the two aft fuselage sections without the collars needed to hold them in place.
 
“If they can’t make sure this is done, what else are they forgetting?” said a frustrated Everett employee.
He said that the error showed a lack of the most basic knowledge and that this work should be routine at this stage in the jet program.
 
Work coming out of Boeing South Carolina was problematic from the beginning of the 787 program 10 years ago, when the fuselage facilities were operated by suppliers Vought and Alenia.
 
When workers with little experience proved unable to deliver the expected completed sections at the required pace, the unfinished work was passed on to final assembly in Everett.
 
This out-of-sequence work caused huge bottlenecks and contributed to years of delays. Boeing subsequently bought out both suppliers and sent in hundreds of experienced people and contractors to smooth the manufacturing process.
Last fall, the South Carolina fabrication facility fell badly behind again and the amount of traveled work spiked as Boeing simultaneously raised the production rate and let go hundreds of contractors.
 
That prompted Boeing management to bring back many contractors and to offer the permanent workforce an incentive bonus if they could successfully catch up on the work behind schedule and greatly reduce the amount of traveled work.
 

 

[WeAAsles]

And DL they get one raise I think, I will have to ask Kevin to be sure.

They received a raise on 4/1/14. That "TOP" rate is $23.86. The caveat though is that it says those who hired before Jan 1 2009? What does that mean?

 

[700UW]

Ready Reserves dont make anywhere near that, they are hired on at one rate and I believe they get one raise at DL, they never get that kind of money.
 
I am talking about RR not full time DL employees.

 

[WeAAsles]

Ready Reserves dont make anywhere near that, they are hired on at one rate and I believe they get one raise at DL, they never get that kind of money.
 
I am talking about RR not full time DL employees.

I wonder what the percentages of Ready Reserve are also in relation to those who are not?

It's always about percentages to me.

 

[robbedagain]

kev  based on what I know from a nbr of dl folks in my station.. and they have quite a large ops  they feel the need to have a say in matters   such as the ps  since dl sliced it big time 

 

[WeAAsles]

kev  based on what I know from a nbr of dl folks in my station.. and they have quite a large ops  they feel the need to have a say in matters   such as the ps  since dl sliced it big time 

You see there's another issue? DL can say that they give out a great Profit Sharing amount but by percentages, who get's the largest slice of that pie?

 

[robbedagain]

Weassles  exactly  who gets it...  is the point  and its not the front line..  the pilots and dispatchers did get large payouts 

 

[700UW]

Pilots.
 
Since they negotiated a 20% raise in a 2 1/2 year period ending this year, so their profit sharing increased more than any other group, they negotiated a 5% reduction yet will have gotten a 20% raise.
 

 

 

[WorldTraveler]

you just can't stand on the sidelines and let DL people discuss among themselves and make their own decisions, can you?

talk about a lack of self-control.

Kev doesn't and never will know and neither will any other person either at DL or any other company the distribution of employees by salary.

that is not information that ANY company is going to share.

It is absolutely amazing that there are people who want to harp on the fact that the PERCENTAGE Of profit sharing was cut for BOTH union and non-union employees by THE SAME PERCENTAGE - and yet both non-union and union workers at DL saw the HIGHEST PROFIT SHARING in the history of US aviation in 2013 and are well on track to easily surpass it in 2014.

in the meantime, unions at AA and US GAVE UP from profit sharing.

this fixation that certain union propaganda pushers is clearly a feeble and very feeble attempt to cover the stupidity of the labor movement in walking away from profit sharing AT THE VERY TIME that the industry as a result of consolidation was poised to see record profits.

And the fact that the pilots and non-pilot personnel had the same reduction in profit sharing percentage is not something the labor camp wants to talk about - because it would completely invalid that their arguments that DL people unionized and non-unionized alike are enjoying the same fruits of the company's success while their peers at other legacy airlines are getting next to no profit sharing.

You three and your unions are THE BEST advertising DL mgmt. could hope for in confirming why DL people have made the right decision to reject further unionization.

 

[700UW]

This is a message board, a forum, where people post topics, exchange information and debate.
 
Can you not figure out that concept with your degrees from a higher education place?
 
You are not a Delta Employee, you are not a Delta ACS Employee, you are not a Delta Flight Attendant, yet you post here and on every thread how God Created Delta and its better than heaven and everyone else who doesnt agree with you is the Devil.
 
Get over yourself, I will post whenever and wherever I want, as long as I agree with the TOS of the boards.
 
If you dont like it, dont read it, bottom line.
 
You constantly make it about the poster and not the topic.
 
I am a trade unionist, Delta's ACS and FAs came to the IAM to organize them, thats the bottom line.
 
You dont have a vote, nor do I, but I have expertise in the IAM and unions, you dont.
 
You go with the bobble head talking points, which are older than dirt.
 
WeAA has proven to you and the board a 4.3% raise on 2080 hours minimum is more than a 10% payout which is taxed at a higher rate, how many times does it have to be told to you?
 
The raise increases their 401k contributions from the company also which lessens the employees tax burden.
 
Typical you attack the poster as usual when you cant refute the facts, that is your consistent M.O.
 
Dont like it, leave it.

 

[WorldTraveler]

so it is ok for you to tell me I can't participate but you have the right to do so?

You are a hypocrite of the first order and it shows every time you post.

You are the best example why DL employees want nothing to do with the labor movement and why you serve DL mgmt.'s purpose better than you could possibly imagine.

DL people can do the math and realize that there paychecks are going up faster than those of any airline employee group in the industry.

And they don't have to wait the 3-4 years that even you admit is typical for contract resolution in the industry.

Why would DL employees give up a system that is clearly superior to what they have now to pay for representation that will give them less?

No rational, thinking person would do so - and they certainly have no motivation join a union like the IAM or TWU if they ever do choose a union.

I'm going nowhere.

 

[700UW]

Once again you make it about the poster and not the topic

 

[WorldTraveler]

but again it was ok for you to spend how many minutes writing that I have no place in the discussion?

No, it is not ok.

it is either a DL active employee discussion or we are all in it and I will debunk every piece of union propaganda you want to dish out.

So at least you will know why DL employees have consistently and repeatedly voted against further unionization.