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because you failed at doing the job of fixing your own worthless union?

of course you should stick around here.

I'll roll out the red carpet for you.

and then yank it out from under you so hard your head will spin.

you are nothing but a screwed up loser.

In every customer metric that is available from the US DOT, DL consistently outperforms your employer, AA.

I knew you couldn't be a man and walk away.

you are the perfect advertisement for why unions are failures and why those from other airlines that stick their nose in DL employees' business should be run out of town.

you still haven't told me why AA's baggage handling at MIA is such a disaster. I don't even have to ask my friends about their experiences at MIA. They ask me the website where they can file complaints for AA's crAAppy service.

apparently, the great union-mgmt. partnership at AA isn't producing tangible results for the customers who pay the bills.

but is anyone really the least bit surprised?
 
WorldTraveler said:
because you failed at doing the job of fixing your own worthless union?

of course you should stick around here.

I'll roll out the red carpet for you.

and then yank it out from under you so hard your head will spin.

you are nothing but a screwed up loser.

In every customer metric that is available from the US DOT, DL consistently outperforms your employer, AA.

I knew you couldn't be a man and walk away.

you are the perfect advertisement for why unions are failures and why those from other airlines that stick their nose in DL employees' business should be run out of town.

you still haven't told me why AA's baggage handling at MIA is such a disaster. I don't even have to ask my friends about their experiences at MIA. They ask me the website where they can file complaints for AA's crAAppy service.

apparently, the great union-mgmt. partnership at AA isn't producing tangible results for the customers who pay the bills.

but is anyone really the least bit surprised?
I do not wish to engage you further. I have already stated I believe very politely that you and I cannot engage in any type of meaningful discourse.

For the "Fifth" time now I am requesting that you refrain from your need for dialogue with me.

I do not think that this is an unreasonable request unless you have self control issues?

Thank you for your cooperation.
 
you are a TWU ramper at AA, right?

just answer the question as to why AA's baggage performance not just at MIA but throughout its system is so much worse than its competitors?

You throw the charge of "crappy airline" around and yet YOUR customers are the ones who are filing complaints with the DOT for the pathetic service they receive.

I can't tell you how many times I hear "I will never fly AA thru MIA again""
 
By Leonard Klein | February 8, 2002 | Page 11
DESPITE THE fact that 98 percent of flight attendants who turned in ballots in the recent election for union representation at Delta Airlines voted "yes," federal election rules turned the vote into a defeat on February 1.
Of the 5,609 ballots cast, 5,520 attendants voted to join the to the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA). But because of antidemocratic Railway Labor Act election laws, 13,424 ballots not sent in counted as "no" votes.
Under National Mediation Board (NMB) rules, unions seeking certification must receive 50 percent plus 1 votes of all eligible bargaining unit members. So, despite overwhelming support for the union, Delta remains the only major airline without unionized flight attendants.

http://socialistworker.org/2002-1/393/393_11_Delta.shtml
 
 
if you don't want to engage in the conversation, then YOU WALK AWAY.

You are not smart enough to realize that you are the one that stuck your nose into a conversation, screwed up and went way out of bounds, and then have taken it upon yourself to trash DL and its employees.

you are one screwed up puppy.

and then you spout psycho crap as if to try to justify your own mental disconnects.


Now tell me again why AA's baggage handling is so much worse than DL's and much of the rest of the competition.

You are the one that made the accusation that DL is a crappy airline yet in the the very job that you do, AA scores far, far lower than DL and other airlines.

walk way and take your mudslinging ways with you.
 
By Leonard Klein | February 8, 2002 | Page 11
DESPITE THE fact that 98 percent of flight attendants who turned in ballots in the recent election for union representation at Delta Airlines voted "yes," federal election rules turned the vote into a defeat on February 1.
Of the 5,609 ballots cast, 5,520 attendants voted to join the to the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA). But because of antidemocratic Railway Labor Act election laws, 13,424 ballots not sent in counted as "no" votes.
Under National Mediation Board (NMB) rules, unions seeking certification must receive 50 percent plus 1 votes of all eligible bargaining unit members. So, despite overwhelming support for the union, Delta remains the only major airline without unionized flight attendants.

http://socialistworker.org/2002-1/393/393_11_Delta.shtml
take it up with the courts.

the issue was decided along with more than half dozen other epresentation elections that took about 25K formerly union members off of union membership rolls.

DL played by the rules - I know it is a concept you can't quite grasp -and the employees made the choice to not be represented by unions.
 
WorldTraveler said:
thanks for posting that memo, Kevin. But it was written at Northwest Airlines, not Delta.
CO...NW... UHC...DL... Doesn't matter. It was written by Richard Anderson.


 
WeAAsles said:
Kev you have no clue how many times I've listened to and posted this video on my PRO UNION Facebook page.
Well, why not? It's a great track.
 
and he applied it and wrote the letter specific to the context he was in

But it still was written to HIS OWN PEOPLE, not some interlopers on a chat forum that inserted their noses into NW, CO, or DL's business.

DL has no responsibility and neither do I to show respect to people who accuse DL and me of manipulating data and running a crappy operation when the data overwhelmingly says that their operations and their labor-mgmt. relations are the ones that are screwed up.

Further, I am the one that posted public data and noted its limitations, and most importantly I didn't say that anyone was bamboozled because they made a decision that was counter to someone's viewpoint.

The simple fact is that the union movement says they want open dialogue and data but only if it fits their narrative.

The behavior demonstrated by the weasel here is part and parcel for how most union leaders behave and why DL people have repeatedly said they want nothing to do with unions.

if the union cause matters to you, Kev, then take control of the conversation on this forum, reign in the interlopers who stick their nose into the discussion and demonstrate true leadership. These guys don't have it.
 
Martin Jay Levitt spent 19 years “on the dark side,” running 250 union-busting campaigns for corporations around the country. He was good at it too, losing a mere five.
 
In the below video, “Confessions of a Union Buster,” Levitt shares his experience and trade secrets with 27,000 flight attendants at Delta Airlines who will begin voting Sept. 29 on forming a union with the Flight Attendants/CWA (AFA/CWA).
 
Two of the main pillars of an anti-union campaign says Levitt, are misinformation and fear. Charter school teachers, from New York to Illinois to California, will find much of this playbook familiar.
 
- See more at: http://www.edwize.org/the-techniques-of-union-busting#sthash.tsdkrBks.dpuf
 
Typical Company Anti-Union Tools

Companies have access to a wide variety of anti-union material from many sources. The typical anti-union campaign has a timeline of activities where you can expect confusion, coercion and intimidation to keep you from becoming a union.

Lies are usually out front. Companies will tell flat-out lies and put out misinformation and statements about the IAM every step of the way to try and convince you that forming a union is a bad deal for you.

Or have you heard this one? "We'll have to close down and move elsewhere if the union gets in here" or "We will no longer afford to be in business". The list goes on with what companies tell their employees. All this rhetoric, while they rake in millions of dollars in profits.

Companies go to extraordinary lengths to make sure you stay "union free". When was the last time your employer cared so much about your well-being except when you decided to look into forming a union?

In some campaigns, companies will go to the edge or break the law just to prevent you from forming a union. Know your rights and keep good notes and copies of company propaganda and threats. Good documentation is very helpful should the IAM need to file Unfair Labor Practices (ULP) against the employer for unlawful activity.

http://www.yourpowerinside.com/pages/companytactics.htm
 
Two of the main pillars of an anti-union campaign says Levitt, are misinformation and fear. Charter school teachers, from New York to Illinois to California, will find much of this playbook familiar.
 
- See more at: http://www.edwize.org/the-techniques-of-union-busting#sthash.tsdkrBks.dpuf
which makes it all the more hypocritical that you as someone who is pushing the union cause are the one that refused to acknowledge industry standard data so you could push non-standard and manipulated data that fits your narrative.

you throw bags for AA, right?

can you explain why AA's baggage handling rate along with their merger partner is so much worse than 7 other airlines in the US in the latest DOT survey?

I mean really, UA did a better job of handling bags than AA and US did.

And of course crappy Delta Air Lines did better than any other network airline plus WN.

it's all on page 30 here.

http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/2014JuneATCR.pdf
 
WorldTraveler said:
and he applied it and wrote the letter specific to the context he was in

But it still was written to HIS OWN PEOPLE, not some interlopers on a chat forum that inserted their noses into NW, CO, or DL's business.
...And 1000's of "HIS OWN PEOPLE" are still there today.


if the union cause matters to you, Kev, then take control of the conversation on this forum, reign in the interlopers who stick their nose into the discussion and demonstrate true leadership. These guys don't have it.
I have no interest in trying to play arbiter. Public discourse is often ugly. So be it.
 
Kev3188 said:
...So will many employees of a certain ATL-based airline...
 
Levitt's (R.I.P.) book oughta be required reading...
It doesn't take long to find all of this is your co-workers would just take the time Kev.

When I think I'm being manipulated especially by my company I let them know flat out who I am and that they're messing with the WRONG guy.

Yes I have confidence in myself and my Union.
 
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