IAM Fleet Service topic

[roabilly]

Mr. Roabilly
Are you saying that airlines are not suffering through terrible economic times? You may want to pick up a copy of the USA today paper, and look at the money section. There is airline news just about every other day, and it's not all that positive. You want to play russian roulette with your future, go for it, and by the way, good luck!

You sound "bitter"...

What’s the problem?.... I can assure the boy's at the top got full control!

P.S. I read both US Today Money Section & Wall Street Journal every single day.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I can assure you that those who nominated the New Direction team were only disgruntled members who spent over two years making themselves organized enough to pick up a few nominations. 9 of their nominations were illegal. In June, the polls will be open for a democratic vote where more than disgruntled workers will be able to vote.

With upcoming mergers, Randy Canale's experience in working with the airlines will carry alot of weight with the United and US AIRWAYS members.

District Force,
Can you explain why Randy Canale got ran out of the ready rooms over at the UA ORD today? One chicago ramper even asked him to resign and go home and die. Although I don't support that type of language, bottom line is that UA chicago despises him to the worst degree. Don't flatter Canale. I can speak as someone here in Chicago that even though Randy Canale has a payroll of about $1 million in Chicago that he doesn't have the support of more than 10% of this 4,500 member local. When I say that Chicago will vote about 2,000 New Direction and about 300 [tops] for Team 2008, that's 'spot on'.
BTW, Canale ruled that PIT, PHX, LAS, SAN, EWR [united's EWR], SAT, and two other locals were voided nominations in hopes that the New Direction Team would protest. The New Direction team is going to take the high road and not protest so this election can take place in June.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[roabilly]

Transparency…Mr. Farce…

That, it is what this Fleet Group demands from the IAM… make us privy… keep us in the loop.

We are totally objective…communicate…educate… without bias!

 

[orioleman]

district force (TR)
"Everything is set up for United but United isn't going to sign any merger agreement that contains the Change in Control merger protections or West scopes"


"Now is the time to ratify. There will be a merger and it makes no sense to be in transition talks if your contract is ammendable in less than 12 months. It's not fair for the class 2 stations and west stations to have to wait one more year."


"Remember, the only reason why your company was even at the table was because of M & A activity. If this tentative is voted down, a merging partner may back away from investing in your company. How long can US AIRWAYS last solo? How long can class 2 stations and west stations survive on their current wages?"

Tommy Boy glad to have you and your contradictions back. let's see today looks :unsure: like your playing the pity card
typical district head games. my question is simple . WHEN DID YOU START WORRYING ABOUT THE WEST AND CLASS II
lets go to class II first. YOU are the ones that put that in our POS contract. and Now you want to BLAME the membership because its
still there .. NOW thats funny tommy boy.
second. first you say the coc is worthless your beating a dead horse. blah blah blah . Now with your quotes above there seems to
some validity to what we have been saying. Guess thats a hard pill for you to swallow telling nelson he was RIGHT. and last but not
least . IF you ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT OUR IMPOVERISHED West brothers and sisters . WHY oh WHY did you guys wait 2 1/2 yrs to sit down the company. And please don't even go there . "the company wouldn't talk to us. " YOU FILE SEC 6 and guess what
they HAVE TO TALK TO YOU. so I thank you for visiting with us. Your always good for keeping the viewership up on this board but
pack your violin and the little monkey holding the cup and go back and screw up someone elses life.

 

[orioleman]

tim,
"BTW, Canale ruled that PIT, PHX, LAS, SAN, EWR [united's EWR], SAT, and two other locals were voided nominations in hopes that the New Direction Team would protest. The New Direction team is going to take the high road and not protest so this election can take place in June."

are you kidding me. Canale is pulling all the stops out now. Folks here's and education on CROOKED POLITICS for you .

to jester and others who say WHY shouldn't I believe Randy . This is a good example why. IF Randy is such a great leader he would

not worry about calling protest . He wouldn't need to because He WOULD HAVE SUPPORT . but when HE keeps robbing people of there

contracts it's hard to have a strong following.

desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[necigrad]

Wait a second. On what grounds did my nomination vote not count? Cause I dind't support Canale?

 

[john john]

Pilot, F/A are never farmed out.
You and I can be replaced easily by someone commanding lower wages and benefits than even we get.

I don’t know how long are were you work but let me clue you in
2/3 of USAirways flying Pilots and Flight Attendants is contracted out OUTSOURCED FARMED OUT… GET IT

 

[libertybell]

Wait a second. On what grounds did my nomination vote not count? Cause I dind't support Canale?

Yup! Nice guy we have running our district don't you think. He will stop at nothing to keep his a$$ in office.

 

[Tim Nelson]

DL 141 Officer Election Update

Randy Canale is up to his dirty tricks as he tells Rich Delaney he will have to resign his AGC $120,000 job and go back to the ramp by Tuesday if Rich wants to run against him in June. Here's the release I received by email. regards, Tim Nelson, IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

The story I'm about to tell you is one of the most disturbing tales to come out of this District Election. Randy Canale, UAL BOARD MEMBER, has sunk to an all time low for a Union leader. This is his most pathetic attempt to date to deny you, the members of 141, a chance to cast your vote for District President of 141 in June. I think this fiasco will make even the most non-interested member so ill and angry that they may be forced to action in June.
Al Faung who is running again for his AGC position with Randy Canale has filed a protest with the Grand Lodge referencing a District bylaw under the election of officers section of the 141 bylaws. The bylaw reads " no nominee may be a candidate for more than one office." His protest states that because of this language Rich Delaney can't be an AGC and run for District President against Randy Canale. Even the most daft of persons would have a hard time agreeing with that logic. But not our Grand Lodge Leaders who have sworn to be COMPLETELY NEUTRAL during this whole election process. Shockingly, they have agreed with the protest and have upheld it.

Because of that decision Randy Canale has told Rich Delaney that he must resign his AGC position, which he has held longer then any other AGC on that board, with over two years left on his term. If he doesn't resign by Tuesday Randy Canale will remove his name from the ballot and declare himself the winner.
So Rich Delaney will resign and return to the O'Hare ramp as a lead Ramp Serviceman until October when he takes office at the District Convention. That is only if Randy doesn't find another way to delay or deny your right to vote for your leadership. The ironic and sad part is that the pathetic leadership of District 141 believe that Rich Delaney will not risk his current job and will pull out of the election. They don't know the character and resolve of Rich and his New Direction Team. Rich is not afraid or ashamed of being a ramp serviceman. His team works right next to the members every day. Randy and the rest of Team 2008 that lead our District are the ones that are so terrified of returning to their former jobs that they will break every law, twist every word and destroy any career to keep what they have. In the history of the IAM this has never happened. This bylaw has never been interpreted this way. No one has ever sunk so low as to try such a pathetic trick until our UNITED BOARD MEMBER S.R. Canale realized that there was nothing legally he could do to stop the members from voicing their opinion in June.

I think every member who is as angry about this as I am should contact the Grand Lodge through their Grand Lodge web site and tell them how embarassed you are to be a member of this once proud union.

 

[Rock Bottom]

Please remember that we pay this people to speak for us. I repeat we pay our hard earned cash for these people to speak for us. Has any one but me sat down and figured out how much we have pay them for these weak a$$ t/a's? Back when the union was trying to get our money they promised us a say in everything!! They were to most democratic union, we were told that they did nothing without a vote. I don't remember, so maybe my brothers can remind me when did we vote to allow them to throw two of our voices out of the t/a Committee!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Please remember that we pay this people to speak for us. I repeat we pay our hard earned cash for these people to speak for us. Has any one but me sat down and figured out how much we have pay them for these weak a$$ t/a's? Back when the union was trying to get our money they promised us a say in everything!! They were to most democratic union, we were told that they did nothing without a vote. I don't remember, so maybe my brothers can remind me when did we vote to allow them to throw two of our voices out of the t/a Committee!

Randy Canale has the authority to appoint negotiations team members and to dispatch them. When Canale accepted this United Airline merger friendly agreement, MF from CLT stood by what his members told him they wanted and couldn't sign on to this rag. The bylaws need a unanimous recommendation from the negotiations team so Randy just left MF off the team. Bottom line.
We will be coming for Randy....soon enough.

BTW, over in the United ORD breakrooms, before they ran Randy off, he was handing out some merger information. He never made it to The US AIRAYS breakroom.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[orioleman]

hey Jester,
Need another reason why you shouldn't trust Randy Jelly fish Canale .

like I said in previous post . Desperate times call for desperate measures. THE MAN has no SPINE. HE can't run on his own

accomplishments and creditenials because HE HAS NONE. Randy wants to act like a BOSS but doesn't have any courage so

unfortunately he like the COWARDLY LION has to get to the land of OZ (That being the district) and try and convince them

to give him COURAGE. TICK TOCK RANDY The sand in the hour glass is moving pretty fast . hope the flying monkeys and the one

holding districts cup don't catch you first....


and people wonder why we wanted a different union.....

Westies . History class is now in session . sit up sharpen your pencils and take notes. Because if you don't I guarantee it will bite you in the arse............

 

[pjirish317]

With the merger upon us, it's time for fleet service to step up for themselves and join together in solidarity for a ratification of your tentative agreement. Both east and west have been through at least 5 years of the most difficult time in your careers and now is the time to take what is offered.

Over the past week I have been encouraged that the leadership in PHX has come together, united, and put aside personal gain. The result should produce a very impressive vote for ratification in PHX. However, I am concerned with the leadership in LAS as I have heard that some leaders are only out for their own political gain and this has caused the type of division that might be critical to ratification. The rank and file in LAS needs to realize that if LAS doesn't have a strong vote for ratification that this tentative agreement and your increased wages will once again become the hostages of the east. I doubt many of you want this? In fact, your Local Chairman and Assistant General Chairman have explained the tentative agreement with you and answered each of your questions. Therefore, you know that you will either be voting for ratification or you will have to wait until 2009.

US AIRWAYS will consider negotiations that will lead the west into the east agreement but the District has no plans at this time to negotiate a contract that merges the west into the east agreement. That means that if this isn't ratified that you will have to wait until December 31, 2009. How many of you can wait that long? Look at your pay stubs and you will be able to see the logic in ratification. Again, it is critical that LAS join the PHX lead for ratification and stop listening to those out strictly for political gain.

Unfortunately, the PHL and CLT leadership is more concerned with personal and political gain and is encouraging their members to vote against ratification. Such action is destructive in light of the upcoming merger. I've said before and I'll say it again, now isn't the time to fight. You have an opportunity to position your company to become the biggest airline in the world through a merger. That means security and the opportunity for strong wage and benefit gains in 2011.
Don't throw it all away just because some of your leaders are out for political gain and one individual is making Randy Canale out as some United Airline monster who is personally devouring your protections. Randy Canale isn't against you having profit sharing or Change in Control protections. If he had his way you would all be making more than our United rampers. These negotiations were some of the most intense negotiations this District has ever experienced. But you have no right to strike and your company is a cost neutral bargainer. You want extra vacation? How many jobs do you want to lose? That's how your company negotiates.

Vote to ratify, then both the west and east can finally join in together and be stronger in 2011.

DF,

Please tell us when is the time to fight? The IAM likes to throw that phrase around alot, so when is the right time. Did you tell that to our West Brothers and Sisters, after you guys stopped section 6 for the West to pursue a substandard and concessionary T/A for all? Why did the IAM stop section 6 for the West anyway? Section 6 and transition negotiations could have, and should have been ongoing together. And after 2 years of record profits, and stall tactics from the company, why should we be in a hurry to appease the company. The company sure as heck did not want to negotiate when the money was rolling in now did they? So if you could, please explain why we can't put the milk back into the jug. And while you are at it, please explain to our West brothers and sisters wht the IAM did not pursue their section 6 after the IAM was certified as their representation, when the TWU were in "full blown" section 6 already? And do you honestly think that any company that merges with us will entertain the thought of opening up transition negotiations with us before our CBA is up, provided that the merging company is unionized, and that said union is the IAM. If the said union is not the IAM do you honestly think that we on the East side anyway would or should vote for the IAM to represent us? Why should we. The so called concession stand that was "CLOSED" seems to open up whenever the company wants it to. So I will ask you again after my rant, when is the RIGHT TIME TO FIGHT IN THE IAM'S EYES! And please answer for both questions.

 

[Rock Bottom]

Thanks Tim for keeping it real. We have a say. RC days are numbered.

I'd like to tell the member that uses a tail number as his or hers users name that the Plane has a whole bunch of vote no stickers in the bin of that aircraft.

Remember we are not one unless we can come together in the common good.

 

[cltrat]

it would be fun for him to show up in the CLT breakroom ..lol I'd buy a ticket to that