Here's my answer, Freedom. We send in the New Direction team after they are elected in June. I personally know our PHL candidate and he will not take any cra& from Al or the others. There is Hope on the horizon.
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Dissent Equals Patriotism
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roadtrip
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About the oil notice the new find
New Oil Find
Ok now you can all go back to the end is near and we need to settle for less than were worth!
New Oil Find
Ok now you can all go back to the end is near and we need to settle for less than were worth!
i keep hearing about us being unskilled labor and we should only expect so much.are you serious have a little pride in yourself.i am not saying i should be paid the same as a mechanic,pilot etc.but crew schedulers make more than we do.i argued with a pilot once who thought we were overpaid and my argument was that i dont get paid for my brain power but after years of working the ramp i can expect to age with a bad back,bad elbow and knee joints,hearing loss and who knows what toxins we are ingesting
from aircraft exhaust,fiberglass in bins,etc.took 50 years for the coal industry to recognize black lung disease.that is why i should be paid a decent wage and think that this t/a is garbage.i can understand the company for not caring about us but to hear my own union brothers and sisters dog us out that is b=ll.if you want to vote yes do so it is your choice.just dont get mad when i vote no.also dont complain later when you realize once again that the iam got you.remember myself and others told you so.
from aircraft exhaust,fiberglass in bins,etc.took 50 years for the coal industry to recognize black lung disease.that is why i should be paid a decent wage and think that this t/a is garbage.i can understand the company for not caring about us but to hear my own union brothers and sisters dog us out that is b=ll.if you want to vote yes do so it is your choice.just dont get mad when i vote no.also dont complain later when you realize once again that the iam got you.remember myself and others told you so.
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Amen...Road...
As I’ve said before…
If you let the “fear mongers†convince you that everything is “Gloom and Doomâ€â€¦
You will never…I repeat …never… get an equitable agreement from the Company.
Those who are well… or even partially versed in negative psychology… can relate to what I’m indicating here.
The Company will most likely launch another phase of “Gloom and Doom†tomorrow, when they report an anticipated loss for the first quarter of 2008.
Look for this announcement to be heavily interwoven with “Fuel Cost†language.
I will ask all Fleet Service Members to understand the inequities that are being perpetuated upon us (Fleet) in this substandard T/A.
Think about the future with another carrier!
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Keep beating that same drum to us yes voters, we are misguided, foolish, etc.....
But here's what I think....anybody who is going to acquire a $3.50 an hour raise by voting yes and then is told by a no voter to "grow a set or become a manager" well that's just IGNORANT.
How many of you easties would vote down a contract that was going to give you $3.50 an hour raise?
I'll answer that for you NONE....so don't even start on "well it doesn't mean anything if we don't have a job".....blah, blah, blah
But here's what I think....anybody who is going to acquire a $3.50 an hour raise by voting yes and then is told by a no voter to "grow a set or become a manager" well that's just IGNORANT.
How many of you easties would vote down a contract that was going to give you $3.50 an hour raise?
I'll answer that for you NONE....so don't even start on "well it doesn't mean anything if we don't have a job".....blah, blah, blah
hey giant---if you read the whole t/a you dont get a 3.50 raise.take out your increase in insurance,lose a couple holidays,scope and future chances for profit sharing.401 match etc.stop looking at the hourly rate and realize the entire agreement.i for one would love a raise but at what cost.if i put 3.50 in your right pocket and then take 3.50 out of your left pocket what do you have left.read the whole agreement not just one line.get real.
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pit4 ever----
You get real..........................................
3.50 an hour raise is over $560 a month....last I checked my insurance costs me 99/month
They would still have 7 holidays.....profit sharing???? Are you kidding me? Well when we turn a profit years down the road I'll donate mine to ya...has that?? My $850 check didn't get me too far....401k match? When your making $15.50 an hour how much could you possibly be contributing?
You're blowing everything out of proportion....talk about scare tactics!
You get real..........................................
3.50 an hour raise is over $560 a month....last I checked my insurance costs me 99/month
They would still have 7 holidays.....profit sharing???? Are you kidding me? Well when we turn a profit years down the road I'll donate mine to ya...has that?? My $850 check didn't get me too far....401k match? When your making $15.50 an hour how much could you possibly be contributing?
You're blowing everything out of proportion....talk about scare tactics!
Yes, these factors are causing oil prices to increase. What's causing it to SKYROCKET is the price of the dollar which is falling faster then that satellite the Navy shot down did. We buy products, even internationally, with dollars. The Dollar isn't worth anything even near what it used to. All those other factors arent' whats causing prices to increase as fast as they are. Those increases have been happening for decades and will continue for decades more, but at a slow pace.
Well, at least if you're a West employee you have cheaper health insurance/copays, full sick time, and STD/LTD to cover your sickness.
hey giant sorry about your finances.but we all have been there.as for your insurance rates i dont know what coverage you need but easties pay 99.00 for a 80/60 ppo for families.215.00 for a 90/70.and 316.00 for 100/80.also copays are high,prescriptions high crappy coverage.hope no one in your family ever gets sick.i know guys here who have cancer and have to pay over 300.00 a week just in co-pays.eats in to that 3.50 raise real quick.in a perfect world the 3.50 sure looks good but please look at all the things you are about to get as well.if you want to vote yes so be it.hope it works for you.ive been in this company for 28 years and the last 15 ive been going backwards.for me its time to take a stand.if i cant get a better deal i will live with that.just cant see myself at least trying.if you ever get to pit leave a msg we can have a beer and laugh after all this is over.i may disagree with you but we are still union bros.
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