IAM Fleet Service topic (Mini Thread)

[rat tales]

Because all sides should be heard, facts and opinions alike! How else can you make an informed decision?

I am a solid no vote, but I will still go to the IAM informational meetings, if only to reinforce the decision I made.

The Truth does not fear investigation nor does it fear debate.

Agent “Vâ€￾

Hey V,

I enjoyed my "Family Day" off at Easter. Thanks for keeping things in perspective.

 

[mike33]

Amazing, isn't it, that it only took me a few days to seperate the BS this No Direction team is feeding everyone from the truth. I guess your extensive board seniority ( 8 months ) has also affected your eyesight. It's the IAM District Office @ 1-847-640-2222 that will verify that a "Tim Nelson" is not the Local Chair. To your dismay, Mike, my opinion is as relevant as yours, and my vote will count equally also. Thank you

You're Welcome

 

[wheels up!!]

I've been watching your posts for days now and have been quiet on this board for a while, but even though what you say about the CIC may be true, it may not hold up a merger or future company plans but myself and many others in this company see this TA for what it is.......

1.Canale's final last move to stick it up our a**es. truth is he knows he's done in June and blames US Ramp, as he should.....he's been screwing us for years.

2.The companies final attempt to lock us in at the lowest pay and benefits in the industry post merger, we will become the new America West employees stuck at the bottom for years to come while our merger partners ramp employees are paid a much higher wage along with more benefits....

You need to read this.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archive...oneymoon-i.html

Our friends on the ramp at UA currently make $20.57 per hour and with your time get 6 weeks vacation.......

Now I don't know about you, but I certainly would rather wait a while longer to get what they have if we do merge, than be stuck with this measly TA that gets you nothing at all for the long term.....

If we don't merge, we will be in normal negotiations soon enough and stand a much better chance of getting an agreement with teeth. On top of that Canale and his $100,000.00 cronies will be out. No one, I mean no-one could possibly do any worse then he has for US Fleet Service.

I do understand where your coming from, but you are truly selling yourself very short by voting in this TA.....I mean if we actually were getting something half descent, I could see....but look at it it....very weak...

I will not tell you or anyone else how to vote in this, but what I do ask is that everyone seek out as much information as you can and educate yourselves. This company wants this group surpressed as much as possible....Let's say it makes our dress prettier to whomever we do merge with....That is fact..

Thanks For Listening....

 

[Rock Bottom]

Wheels up.

Just a question, Canale has been helping you for the past 30 years? Show me what he has done in the past 30 years. Has he gotten us a living wage in the past 30 years. Has he stopped the big cats from taking big bonuses and popping their gold parachutes in the past 30 years? Where's Dave?

I don't know about you but since mister I have been doing this for 30 years, has been helping me my quailty of life has been going down hill. I was better off as a new hire for peidmont then I am now that mister I have 30 years has been helping me.

Years of service doesn’t make him right it just makes him old, and it is time to put him out to pasture.

Are you going to Vote Bush he has been doing this for 8 years?

 

[rat tales]

Amazing, isn't it, that it only took me a few days to seperate the BS this No Direction team is feeding everyone from the truth. I guess your extensive board seniority ( 8 months ) has also affected your eyesight. It's the IAM District Office @ 1-847-640-2222 that will verify that a "Tim Nelson" is not the Local Chair. To your dismay, Mike, my opinion is as relevant as yours, and my vote will count equally also. Thank you

Wheels up,

The problem is that Randy picked up the phone at the district office. You would be better off calling the International. The 800 number is on the web. I find your reply to be suspicious because the Grand lodge would not divulge information nor does it have Member records available to hand out.

That is 6 months I have on this board to your week. I am still but a Baby to this board. A 6'1" 265lb. baby!

 

[roadtrip]

Wheels,

The Ream 2008 Team has done such a fine job these past years in making our lives a living hell. They sit back making 47 dollars an hour

98,000 a year for what! we never see these clowns. But wait as soon as there jobs are on the line there reaction is holy sh!t we better do

something.

Got news for Ream 2008 .......Its To Late your history in June


Oh and as far as Tim he has a heck of alot of more respect fighting for fleet service than any of the AGC Puppets

 

[giantfan]

Boy...am I striking a nerve with you all....I bet you wish I would just go back East Rutherford NJ and go away :angry:

To perv.....In no way am even looking at this board for an indication on vote count. This board is smack in the middle of Nelsonville and I don't work there.

To bobdylan...there is no way you know what station I work in...NO WAY...so don't even try to figure it out. And yes EVERYONE I speak to in my station is a YES, call me what you want but I'm not a liar. Furthermore, I've been here 30 years all up and down the Atlantic and got lots of friends and all I've been hearing is YES.

Why....is that making everyone nervous?

 

[mike33]

Boy...am I striking a nerve with you all....I bet you wish I would just go back East Rutherford NJ and go away :angry:

To perv.....In no way am even looking at this board for an indication on vote count. This board is smack in the middle of Nelsonville and I don't work there.

To bobdylan...there is no way you know what station I work in...NO WAY...so don't even try to figure it out. And yes EVERYONE I speak to in my station is a YES, call me what you want but I'm not a liar. Furthermore, I've been here 30 years all up and down the Atlantic and got lots of friends and all I've been hearing is YES.

Why....is that making everyone nervous?

Not Nervous...Just wondering why you perceive your net worth the same as Hemenway and Canale do....You sell yourself short. Vote as you must! Thats your right! I'm just hoping you don't vote me out of a job in my station........Just that simple

 

[Tim Nelson]

Wheels up.

Just a question, Canale has been helping you for the past 30 years? Show me what he has done in the past 30 years. Has he gotten us a living wage in the past 30 years. Has he stopped the big cats from taking big bonuses and popping their gold parachutes in the past 30 years? Where's Dave?

I don't know about you but since mister I have been doing this for 30 years, has been helping me my quailty of life has been going down hill. I was better off as a new hire for peidmont then I am now that mister I have 30 years has been helping me.

Years of service doesn’t make him right it just makes him old, and it is time to put him out to pasture.

Are you going to Vote Bush he has been doing this for 8 years?

I know Ken Thiede who was the previous District Chairman and unless I'm mistaken he said he never put Randy Canale on ANY major airline negotiations team. Before Randy was the District Chairman and inserted himself and made such a fine mess, his 30+ years of 'negotiations experience' was negotiating contracts for fixed base operators and other outfits with a few dozen people. So far he has yet to negotiate anything on US AIRWAYS. He gives us his beautiful sayings, "Live to fight another day", "Knife to my back and gun to my head" "Aloha went bankrupt and the stock is low" as reasons to throw our livelihood and families under the bus. WTF?

Moron....we got morons on our team.

What your No Vote Means in the Merger

What your Yes Vote Means in the Merger

Tentative agreement summary page
regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
email: [email protected]

 

[cltrat]

my cat could represent us better than Canale and wouldnt charge us 100k plus

wheels nice to see you on my friend look up and tell the Boss Hi if you get a chance

 

[orioleman]

perv, roadtrip pit til death, any of our other northern posters,


since uncle Al has basically hidden traditional neg behind what he calls a transition agreement. maybe you guys can explain to the rest of

us HOW traditional neg go . and issues like extending contracts and removing of language and scope . normal in "Just a transistion agreement" or is that not

geared more to traditional neg. if so how looooong does that normally take 4 or 5 visits or what.

 

[giantfan]

Hey rockbottom--

I'm origianl Piedmont too, and my one vote counts the same as your one vote. No more, no less. So don't let me get you too worked up. We probably have a lot of the same friends.

Moo, moo, moo

 

[necigrad]

Is it just me, or has pretty much every page of this thread (until page 10) been about Tims membership status, and the CIC? With all the bickering on these two topics alone, if it keeps up, no one will notice me making the only vote on the TA. Results: No by 100%.

 

[urbff]

Now come on boys, why all the bickering? Maybe I can clear up a few things for you little darlings.


CIC, never worked before, why bother? We have the LPP's. We are all happy.

Article 26. The part time limits are still there. Applys at OEI, so don't worry yourself sick over this one. Just get out that old dusty contract of yours and compare it to your TA. It's all good darlings. We are all happy.

Rat, honey, ever think of changing your name?
Article 23. We AWA people can still have direct deposit into our 401k's. Just no company match. Just take a peek at that TA. Sweetheart, that means 401K and the pension.

Article 7, 60 day rule is gone. Those poor unfortunates who were furloughed have 6 months to come back after we all vote this in. They lose nothing. Those who are back as HP lose nothing. I can't wait for those bigs guys to come back!

Article 5, again Rat dear, The TA, just in case you didn't read it says 26 swaps per quarter, and local policy may be LESS RESTRICTIVE. Now don't you have your manger wrapped around your little finger? I'm starting to think your name may be a little hint to use that your not a person we should trust.

Wheels, you're a card! I followed your lead and talked to the nicest lady, who told me the same thing...and more about Timmy.

Timmy, I'd like to know what you think about Placid Harbor, and what classes you have taken. Maybe we can meet there someday. Your picture is cute, and I have a thing for bad boys!

Timmy I'd like to know if you have negotiated any contracts?

Tim, one more thing that kind of makes me wonder...... Back in Aug, you said this....aug 15 2007
This t/a is interesting in that each station will see something different. If there is anything that could stop this from being ratified it is the profit sharing for 2007. Again, I think this deal represents a fair deal to the vast majority of workers and will be approved by a wide margin.
Why the change in heart?

I talked to guys all over the system and all I'm hearing is YES, YES, and YES! The only no's are on this board. Vote yes, let's save those adorable field stations of ours!

 

[roabilly]

Quote: 737200

HERE'S THE DEAL...............................

If, Nate G. LAX AGC, Pat F. PHL AGC, Jeff R. CLT AGC,Mark W. AGC PIT, would have thier
compensation package's ( wages and benefits) to reflect the same as what is in the T/A.
I would follow thier lead and vote for it. It would save the IAM money and possibly
reduce are dues that we currently pay.
These guy's negotiated it, they endorse it and if it's that good they should live by it too.
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Amen... Brother...

This is actually what this thread is about... Money (Your Dues)...
vs. IAM Representation (AGC's) etc.