I.A.M VS I.B.T

[700UW]

Once again you fail to debate.

Go do some research, I have posted cases numerous times.

Lets try this one more time PSA and US Air Merger go look it up.

ibt went bye bye and all PSA Mechanic and Related at PSA became IAM.

Why don't you try to act your age instead of your shoe size for a change and actually debate.

 

[Bird Doctor]

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700UW Posted Today, 01:51 PM
When are you going to post facts and be able to debate?
Like I said, there is precedent setting rulings from the NMB on these types of cases.
You are too ignorant to even educate yourself, keep posting your insults since that is all the intelligence is capable of doing.
Don't let the facts get in your way

700UW Posted Today, 12:29 PM
Like I said, you ibters cant debate, is that the past mafia control of the ibt coming out?
You all will be in for a rude awakening if you don't educate yoruself.
By the way there was Lake Central, Mohawk, PSA and Piedmont.
Go learn your history.

700UW Posted Today, 12:20 PM
Is that the best you can do?
By the way that is a 737-400 that was in the CLT Hangar undergoing heavy mtc, something you dont do out west.
And 700UW is an Airbus A319, not a B737-400.
Guess you must be coming out of the closet if all you can do is post a pic of man's ass.
And once again, go educate yourself, and take off the rose colored glasses.
Maybe you will actually learn something and will be able to debate instead of always ignoring the issues at hand, is that how the ibt operates?
The status quo does not apply, go look at any merger when a single carrier status motion is granted.
Go ask the former PSA ibt Mechanic and Related what happened when US Air merger.
Hint the ibt contract went bye bye.
Don't let the facts get in your way.
You ibters better go get educated, you make this way too easy.

See all your rants and not one link to any facts.
Lets see if you can debate IAM contract article 17 pgh P
or maybe NMB 9.204, 9.207, 9.208, 9.210????
Do you need there links???
http://www.nmb.gov/index.html
http://www.teamsterslocal104.org/usair_iam...ement_intro.htm

To start this debate +or-172 pages of your contract has been changed by art17 pgh P so what facts do you have that more changes are not on there way???View attachment 3973

 

[700UW]

Let me explain this to you one more time.

If single carrier status is granted your contract goes away and you will be transitioned into the IAM/US CBA.

Is that too hard to understand?

The ibt will no longer be your representative.

Go call your ibt reps, they will tell you the samething.

Are you the ignorant not to check into this?

 

[Bird Doctor]

Let me explain this to you one more time.

If single carrier status is granted your contract goes away and you will be transitioned into the IAM/US CBA.

Is that too hard to understand?

The ibt will no longer be your representative.

Go call your ibt reps, they will tell you the samething.

Are you the ignorant not to check into this?

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ART17 pgh P see it is allready started

AIRWOMAN Posted Today, 05:14 PM
Here's some info copied from the weekly FAQ's.

Q. Are there any aircraft types planned in base maintenance other than the 737?

A. For 2006, the CLT hangar plan is based on B737 C and Q checks (The Q check is an East heavy structural check similar to West’s D check). As we go through the merger process, we will be developing longer-range plans for all of the bases. We would like to have bases specialize on aircraft models but that might not be entirely possible and at least one of the bases might see a mix of fleet types.

Nada about ANY union, one union, the other union. So in my opinion, it doesn't put much credibility in the belief by some, of outsourcing all maintenance under the IBT contract. Sounds like they are looking to the FUTURE. Developing long range plans for ALL the bases.

For a few week maybe there is going to be a vote and the IAM is going bye bye. You dont have the numbers you think you have NMB 9.204 9.207 9.208 9.210 take away apx 1900 Uitily workers for starter cause they have no chance of coming back

This is the FUTURE not the PAST

 

[SSBB]

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700UW Posted Today, 01:51 PM
When are you going to post facts and be able to debate?
Like I said, there is precedent setting rulings from the NMB on these types of cases.
You are too ignorant to even educate yourself, keep posting your insults since that is all the intelligence is capable of doing.
Don't let the facts get in your way

700UW Posted Today, 12:29 PM
Like I said, you ibters cant debate, is that the past mafia control of the ibt coming out?
You all will be in for a rude awakening if you don't educate yoruself.
By the way there was Lake Central, Mohawk, PSA and Piedmont.
Go learn your history.

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WAY TO GO Bird Doctor you tell him. He nevers gives links to his babblings.

**Moderator Note: Please refrain from quoting a lengthy post. It just makes it easier for everyone to read follow-on posts. Thank you.**

 

[700UW]

Lets explain this one more time.

Your letter means nothing when the NMB declares single carrier status.

Call the NMB call the ibt, they will tell you that.

Can you not understand that FACT?

And by the way, there are not 1,900 utility on furlough.

By the way, as long as they have recall rights, they are eligble to vote.

And with more working coming in-house will add to the utility in base mtc, see if you had base mtc you would know that.

It is amazing the level of ignorance you have achieved.

 

[Bird Doctor]

Lets explain this one more time.

Your letter means nothing when the NMB declares single carrier status.

Call the NMB call the ibt, they will tell you that.

Can you not understand that FACT?

And by the way, there are not 1,900 utility on furlough.

By the way, as long as they have recall rights, they are eligble to vote.

And with more working coming in-house will add to the utility in base mtc, see if you had base mtc you would know that.

It is amazing the level of ignorance you have achieved.

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Facts under the NMB 9.0 READ

 

[700UW]

Go read single carrier status.

Go ask your ibt reps, call the nmb.

Single carrier status eliminates the ibt and your cba from the equation.

Keep trying.

You are the one who is lying.

 

[allunionsdeceive]

Lets explain this one more time.

Your letter means nothing when the NMB declares single carrier status.

Call the NMB call the ibt, they will tell you that.

Can you not understand that FACT?

And by the way, there are not 1,900 utility on furlough.

By the way, as long as they have recall rights, they are eligble to vote.

And with more working coming in-house will add to the utility in base mtc, see if you had base mtc you would know that.

It is amazing the level of ignorance you have achieved.

let talk about this.
Call the NMB . Have you ever talked to the NMB or anyone at your level?
what are the # of utility/ tech on furlough?
how many on furlough would vote? not many
what work is coming in house?
us west don't have utility? if knew the facts you would know that.
and no one should talk of ignorance till they are perfect. no one around here is.

 

[700UW]

I know HP has no utility.

The HP fleet will come in-house when the Single Carrier Status is declared.

The company has told the IAM some shop work will come back in-house once the transition negotiations are completed.

Approximatly 2,800 Mechanic and Related on furlough.

 

[allunionsdeceive]

Go read single carrier status.

Go ask your ibt reps, call the nmb.

Single carrier status eliminates the ibt and your cba from the equation.

Keep trying.

You are the one who is lying.

are talking of 19.501-19.7 NMB representation manual
is so the ibt and iam certification stay in effect till NMB issues a new or certification or dismissal.
that could be a vote or IAM or vote and IBT or decertification.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Just some words for thought, taken from an article in the AZ Republic.

Rick Russell
Community columnist
Jan. 6, 2006 12:00 AM

There is only one way to be free, and that is to defend the right of the scoundrel you disagree with 100 percent to be as free as you are. Once you restrict the rights of others, you restrict your own.

 

[allunionsdeceive]

I know HP has no utility.

The HP fleet will come in-house when the Single Carrier Status is declared.

The company has told the IAM some shop work will come back in-house once the transition negotiations are completed.

Approximatly 2,800 Mechanic and Related on furlough.

I'm sure the company is asking for things in return. until the jobs are on site don't get to excited.

 

[700UW]

Single carrier status declared takes the ibt hp mechanics and brings them under the IAM/US CBA when transition negotiations take place.

PSA mechanic and related were ibt, upon merger the NMB declared single carrier status, the ibt ceased to be their bargaining representative and the M&R were transitioned into the IAM/US CBA after transition negotiations were complete.

 

[Snafu]

Single carrier status declared takes the ibt hp mechanics and brings them under the IAM/US CBA when transition negotiations take place.

PSA mechanic and related were ibt, upon merger the NMB declared single carrier status, the ibt ceased to be their bargaining representative and the M&R were transitioned into the IAM/US CBA after transition negotiations were complete.

First of all, single carrier status has NOT been declared. Second, the cards are being collected to force a vote. When and if there are enough cards to force a vote, the vote will take place and then the representing union will be declared. And please, please, please, don't spout off about members not voting and winding up as "at will employees." Members are obligated, if by nothing other than themselves, to vote. And if they don't, then the outcome will be the outcome and only because the members felt ZERO obligation to themselves and those that depend on them. But at least if it comes down to a vote, there will be options. Talk about drinking the kool-aid.....there are very, very, very few on any of these boards, that are current IAM members that are willing to back the union and the contract, as you are. And if you can factually present any number of these individuals, we would all welcome them.

One more thing......did the PSA mechanics and related vote???