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I.A.M VS I.B.T

Funny,

I get e-mails, regular mail, web page updates, a newsletter and a magazine. See if you were a member you would know.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Grand Lodge

District 142
 
There is no reason for the IAM to provide any info to non-union workers at HP until the NMB makes a ruling on the single carrier status of the ibt files for an election.

It would be a waste of time and resources to operate on "IFs".

700 with all due respect...if your excusing the IAM for not responding to AIRWOMAN because of "what if's" then why are your so SURE the IAM will prevail. AIRWOMAN and I are in the same boat. Non-represented that will be either IAM or IBT. So if your so confident that all 7000 members will count and it's a done deal don't use "what if's" as an excuse for the IAM not responding to AIRWOMAN. As you say "Don't let the facts get in your way".

Oh and by the way, do you really think that the NMB is going to compare apples and oranges....7000 members including clerks and what not against 1100 mechanics. It's not rationale to think that US East has almost 7 times the members of the same crafts as US West? Doesn't add up and they should dig a little deeper. Don't count your chickens yet.
 
700 with all due respect...if your excusing the IAM for not responding to AIRWOMAN because of "what if's" then why are your so SURE the IAM will prevail. AIRWOMAN and I are in the same boat. Non-represented that will be either IAM or IBT. So if your so confident that all 7000 members will count and it's a done deal don't use "what if's" as an excuse for the IAM not responding to AIRWOMAN. As you say "Don't let the facts get in your way".

Oh and by the way, do you really think that the NMB is going to compare apples and oranges....7000 members including clerks and what not against 1100 mechanics. It's not rationale to think that US East has almost 7 times the members of the same crafts as US West? Doesn't add up and they should dig a little deeper. Don't count your chickens yet.
first, who or what did she attempt to contact? that has a huge bearing on a lot of things....
the 7000 members you infer to are already represented by unions at both companies and if you aren't it doesn't apply or include your group.union represented only...time for you to organize maybe?
as far as comparing apples and oranges?? its called precedent in past actions or decisions.its fact.
as far as the chickens.......
 
first, who or what did she attempt to contact? that has a huge bearing on a lot of things....
the 7000 members you infer to are already represented by unions at both companies and if you aren't it doesn't apply or include your group.union represented only...time for you to organize maybe?
as far as comparing apples and oranges?? its called precedent in past actions or decisions.its fact.
as far as the chickens.......

Copied from the IAM website that was so kindly supplied on this board.


Contact Information



You may contact the District 142 offices at the following locations:



Main Office
Air Transport District 142
400 N.E. 32nd Ave
Kansas City, MO 64116

Phone: 816-452-6646
Fax: 816-455-4793

email: [email protected]

No, the non represented members that may be/will be acreeded into the union, those numbers don't count right now. They haven't even been reported to the NMB....yet. But they will be at some point in time.
What about all this being acreeded into the union stuff??????????? That's what we are talking about. Why does one side openly discuss and the other doesn't??
 
Why does one side openly discuss and the other doesn't??
because like has been reported before...there is no campaign here except by the raiding group...nothings been declared yet for IAM to do anything.this is a one sided game at this point in time.
its a business for both sides....IAM has everything to gain and nothing to lose at this moment.IBT has everything to gain and much to lose....
until NMB puts out some type of answer....its all in a holding pattern.
NMB rules...then its IBT's time to put up or shut up...so why should IAM run around wasting assets and resources on a quite possible non-issue?
 
because like has been reported before...there is no campaign here except by the raiding group...nothings been declared yet for IAM to do anything.this is a one sided game at this point in time.
its a business for both sides....IAM has everything to gain and nothing to lose at this moment.IBT has everything to gain and much to lose....
until NMB puts out some type of answer....its all in a holding pattern.
NMB rules...then its IBT's time to put up or shut up...so why should IAM run around wasting assets and resources on a quite possible non-issue?
IMO, both sides have everything to lose and everything to gain. As we all know, the NMB has yet to make the declaration. Or maybe, because I'm not familiar with the IAM and it's workings, they believe the potential members are a waste of time.

And what would it hurt for a simple return e-mail??? No real wasted asset or resources for an e-mail reply.
 
when the time comes...IF....then they'll do something i'm sure.
like any businees,they won't throw money away until they need too.they have an excellent organizing group which 700 can attest to.
as for your email...i don't know what to say.....maybe a phone call would net you better results?
you can make issue here on the boards over an email ,but when you get someone on a phone and say for instance,they hung up on you,then i'd think you'd have a case for an honest gripe.
i think they get a lot of emails for one thing....
ok,let me be fair here.....this happened now that you mention e-mails....
long ago when all these things we discuss were in their infancy.....when awa merger was in a folder but known was coming...i too sent an email to IBT...i never did get an answer either as a matter of fact...really...i forgot about that.so guess we're even? :lol:
have a nice weekend
 
when the time comes...IF....then they'll do something i'm sure.
like any businees,they won't throw money away until they need too.they have an excellent organizing group which 700 can attest to.
as for your email...i don't know what to say.....maybe a phone call would net you better results?
you can make issue here on the boards over an email ,but when you get someone on a phone and say for instance,they hung up on you,then i'd think you'd have a case for an honest gripe.
i think they get a lot of emails for one thing....
ok,let me be fair here.....this happened now that you mention e-mails....
long ago when all these things we discuss were in their infancy.....when awa merger was in a folder but known was coming...i too sent an email to IBT...i never did get an answer either as a matter of fact...really...i forgot about that.so guess we're even? :lol:
have a nice weekend
Yeah.......I guess it's even. ;)
I think I have an honest gripe based on my personal experience. In all honesty, I did talk with the IBT union stewards and was given the information and even attended the meeting that was set up and the non represented people were invited so........my personal experience is as it is. As yours is as it was.
I'll try the phone call and I'll let ya know how that went.
You too.......nice long weekend. MLK day........a paid day off. :D
 
WHO THE HE!! let the Professional IAM BS ARTIST's to run loose (yes you 7 )and this, Half the truth, Misleading the facts, Twisting the words to post this BS here. PAUL O PAUL PLZ DONT LET THEM CALL ME NAMES :blink:

THE IBT LOVES YOU DELL AND MR-700 MORE AND MORE VOTES EVERY DAY..
AS A EAST MEMBER SAID, EVERY TIME YOU TWO POST... A VOTE FOR THE IBT IS MADE. LOOK AT THE POLL 92% TO 27% AND A FUGE TUNA LOL.

HELLO. HELLO. HELLO. WHAT YOU DONT WANT TO POST YOUR BS?

You are not in the 7,000, how do you even know if your cards will mean anything?
WELL HOW GOOD TO SAY HELLO TO A NEW UNION MEMBER.. HOW DID YOU TWO SAY IT.ME FOR ME. As a Teamster we say welcome to the union.............ask what you want we have it, UPFRONT :up:
 
700.......in case you are interested.



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